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01-08-2007, 10:58 AM
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badly played jj vs tag
villan most likely one of you, 23/16/3.5/few hundred hands. How bad is the flop and turn play? I didnt think he would 3 barrel here so i folded the river.......
No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $1/$2 5 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $209.08 CO: $305.23 Button: $36.31 SB: $207.85 Hero: $211.75 Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($28, 4 players) SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $20</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls. Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($68, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $45</font>, Hero calls. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($158, 2 players) Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $137.08</font>, Hero folds. Uncalled bets: $137.08 returned to UTG. Results: Final pot: $158 
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#3
01-08-2007, 11:01 AM
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Re: badly played jj vs tag
i hate this type of hand, because any raise you make is only going to be called with something that beats you.
I actually don't think this line is that bad
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#6
01-08-2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: badly played jj vs tag
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3-bet PF?? flop is fine, turn is usually a fold IMO. [/ QUOTE ] i think the same way --> a reraise preflop narrows down his range, so postflop is easyer to play (and you get initiative which is great too)
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#8
01-08-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: badly played jj vs tag
Okay first things first, 3betting is not just to find out if your JJ is behind, it's pretty usefully to make your hand a bit more hidden, you should try and 3bet more and hands like JJ in spots like this will probably become way easier to play - if not more profitable.
Anyway as played, is river a call - I think this hand is very read dependent, the guy is repping an overpair or set you have to decide how many times this is AK or some other air it looks to him like you have a small piece of the board if not a small PP and he either is extracting value or pushing you off the hand, the river push looks to me like he's trying to get you to go away but thats just me. I think this comes down to your table image, have you been floating a lot? Calling down marginally? Or is this your first calldown on this table? You say you dont think he would 3barrell here, but if he thinks you are a 2p2er he probably would
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#9
01-08-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: badly played jj vs tag
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i hate it from start to finish [/ QUOTE ] exactly but ill elaborate rr preflop because you likely have the best hand and you dont want to play JJ 4 way. bet the flop to charge draws or not get too over invested against a set or higher over pair turn we dont have as much of a problem had we led out on hte flop. wed have a clear check or bet. as played this is the only spot i like. check river we can block as played this hand just sucks so much cause we have no idea where we stand what so ever. for all you know by the end he couls have A10 or 99. and that is why this hand wins suckiest play of the day. no offense but i cried when i read it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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