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Old 11-11-2007, 03:57 PM
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:00 PM
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So I guess MTTR got paid off by the illuminati? The real secret is to always buy in for 23BB and always open raise 5BB. They'll try to have me killed for divulging this.
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:18 PM
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I'm rooming with the most hated shortstacker in the world during PCA

Whos gonna beat me up!

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who is that?

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CHOO CHOO
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:52 PM
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off-topic,

I've been thinking of an experiment
great shortstackers pretty much uniformly claim how unique and valuable their information is. Thus, they haven't posted any of it. I know about 80% of it from quite a bit of success shortstacking myself. One could apply themselves and in a month have a 5 figure per month income working 35 hour weeks. However, this might destroy the poker games that regular full-stackies depend on.

I'm thinking about just posting guidelines, charts, hand histories and everything I have on shortstacking to see if the info really is that valuable.

If it is that valuable, I expect someone to buy me off before I post it all.

</delusionsofgrandeur>

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is it against 2p2 T&C to offer for sale a "shortstacking playbook" in BBV?

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guess it isn't allowed

i asked in "about the forums"
thread got deleted I guess
I hoped it was going to the mod forum for discussion, but I never heard anything and the link to the thread no longer works

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Mason says, "No".

If you want to sell your "book" on 2+2, buy an ad..

(Or write a real book and convince 2+2 to publish it).
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

I always thought people hated fatal error more than imsa
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

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off-topic,

I've been thinking of an experiment
great shortstackers pretty much uniformly claim how unique and valuable their information is. Thus, they haven't posted any of it. I know about 80% of it from quite a bit of success shortstacking myself. One could apply themselves and in a month have a 5 figure per month income working 35 hour weeks. However, this might destroy the poker games that regular full-stackies depend on.

I'm thinking about just posting guidelines, charts, hand histories and everything I have on shortstacking to see if the info really is that valuable.

If it is that valuable, I expect someone to buy me off before I post it all.

</delusionsofgrandeur>

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is it against 2p2 T&C to offer for sale a "shortstacking playbook" in BBV?

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guess it isn't allowed

i asked in "about the forums"
thread got deleted I guess
I hoped it was going to the mod forum for discussion, but I never heard anything and the link to the thread no longer works

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Mason says, "No".

If you want to sell your "book" on 2+2, buy an ad..

(Or write a real book and convince 2+2 to publish it).

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makes sense...ty for replying

I'm debating what to do as far as posting alot of info or not

I'm truly not sure what is in the best interest of the game
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:18 AM
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MyTrun2Raise is not even good, idk why anyone would want to learn from him. He has even admitted to being a V small winner, and dependent on RB and bonuses for any real profit.

anyone can be a winning SS'er if they put in the time to learn the math involved, however for the vast majority of players you will be more long-term +ev full stacking

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while I'm not good, I'm much better than the player you remember terrorizing OnGame

I'm fairly sure that any player could apply himself and be making 5 figures a month within 3 months with 20BB buyins, which brings me to the later point on it being better for players to play fullstack from a financial perspective

doubtful...the vast majority would be in better financial situation shorting IMO

there just aren't that many people who are good at the dynamics of fullstack poker
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:20 AM
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DIE SHORTSTACKERS DIE.

That said, it's not like it can't be countered by a thinking human being who takes notes, datamines, and can estimate shortstacker ranges.

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I wish you luck countering if you are playing with other 60+BB stacks
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:23 AM
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I'm rooming with the most hated shortstacker in the world during PCA

Whos gonna beat me up!

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who is that?

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Choo [censored] Choo
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:37 AM
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MyTrun2Raise is not even good, idk why anyone would want to learn from him. He has even admitted to being a V small winner, and dependent on RB and bonuses for any real profit.

anyone can be a winning SS'er if they put in the time to learn the math involved, however for the vast majority of players you will be more long-term +ev full stacking

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doubtful...the vast majority would be in better financial situation shorting IMO

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lol

both take time to become a winning player @ higher limits. anyone who is smart and puts in the time will be a long term winner @ either one. however full stacking has a higher potential ev than short stacking. I would be suprised to see a SS'er @ 2/4+ winning over 2ptbb/100 over a large sample. and if there are some, I would confidently guess its <10.

I have yet to see a +ev SS'er playing HU btw, and I've played plenty.
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