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Old 09-18-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: billick calls out mangini\'s jets for cheating

or it could just be one of those things coaches say all the time in the press conference, but now the media is running with it like crazy. Who knows. Who cares.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:04 PM
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Wow. A lot of people are completely missing the point here which is that another head coach called out Mangini for something that it is very rountine and wouldn't normally be made an issue. The possible reason to do this? To send a message to Mangini that he was out of line for getting a fellow coach fined $500K.

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Old 09-18-2007, 01:06 PM
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Wow. A lot of people are completely missing the point here which is that another head coach called out Mangini for something that it is very rountine and wouldn't normally be made an issue. The possible reason to do this? To send a message to Mangini that he was out of line for ratting out the Patriots.

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I disagree. Coaches routinely say in their press conference that the other team was holding, chucking WRs, simulating snap counts etc. Its usually barely noticed by the press. This is getting play because of the previous weeks news but it isn't really Billick calling out Mangini.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:06 PM
CharlieDontSurf CharlieDontSurf is offline
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BILLICK COMPLAINTS JUST THE BEGINNING FOR MANGINI?

A league source opined to us on Tuesday morning that the recent comments of Ravens coach Brian Billick are "only the beginning" of the backlash that Jets head coach Eric Mangini will face after blowing the whistle on his former employer, the New England Patriots.

On Monday, Billick claimed that Jets defensive players illegal simulated the snap count, causing three illegal procedure penalties in Sunday's game between New York and Baltimore.

Some folks in league circles are troubled by the notion that Mangini violated the code of silence among coaches, doing so not because it was "the right thing to do," but because he thought he could gain a competitive advantage by pointing out a competitive advantage that he previously used to his own advantage, culminating in the head-coaching position he now holds.

If, some believe, Mangini believed that it was wrong to videotape defensive signals, he should have taken a stand when he was working for the Patriots.

So, as a result, anything that the Jets do that technically constitutes "cheating" will likely now be the subject of public complaints from other coaches.

With that said, guys like Billick should pick their battles carefully. Things that happen as part of the action on the field are extremely different, in our view, from secretly (or, as in the case of the Patriots, blatantly) videotaping defensive signals. As to the former, guys in black and white uniforms are in place to police possible rules violations. So if the Jets are calling out phony snap counts in an effort to rattle the Ravens' young offensive linemen, the game officials need to be flagging it.

It's no different, in our estimation, than holding or pass interference or anything else that happens on the field. It's only a penalty if a penalty is called, and guys surely get away with stuff in each and every game that is played.

Still, the message to Mangini is clear. He hurled a boulder in a cul-de-sac of glass houses. He can now expect plenty of rocks to come flying his way from the neighbors.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:09 PM
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CDS,

If you are going to break 2+2 rules and post an entire article from an outside source, you could at least have the decency to provide a link or in some way give credit to the author/publisher.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:14 PM
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this is where your hire a 300 pound nose tackle who can throw is voice and speak without moving his lips, ahhaaha
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: billick calls out mangini\'s jets for cheating

CDS - Are you both a Yankee fan and a Patriots fan?
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: billick calls out mangini\'s jets for cheating

lol @ these things being the same

I do think it is bushleague if it is true though .. just like i thought the i got it arod stuff was bushleague

but to compare this to videotape teams signals is ridiculous.

Again, this was the ref's responsibility to catch, what patriots did was the league's responsibility to catch
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: billick calls out mangini\'s jets for cheating

if mangini had done this in their first meeting last year, i can understand the "he's a snitch, he used to do it on the pats" angle. if he knows the opposing coach is continuing to cheat against him after repeated warnings, it is in his best interest to stop it from happening.

i really can't believe a lot of this finger pointing at mangini.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:33 PM
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Some folks in league circles are troubled by the notion that Mangini violated the code of silence among coaches, doing so not because it was "the right thing to do," but because he thought he could gain a competitive advantage by pointing out a competitive advantage that he previously used to his own advantage, culminating in the head-coaching position he now holds.

If, some believe, Mangini believed that it was wrong to videotape defensive signals, he should have taken a stand when he was working for the Patriots.


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I should have stopped reading right there. Apparently this writer and these anonymous sources are morons.
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