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Old 08-18-2007, 06:28 PM
vincevegas vincevegas is offline
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Default 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

I think this hand is easy on line...live I dont....lets see what you think....

Lundy (fairly aggressive) raises in middle position.....Eva calls next in.....Im in the big blind with JJ and normally 3 bet here, but both these players will give me a ton of action if I disguise my hand so I just calll......

Flop JT2r, I chk, Lundy bets, Eva raises, I 3 bet, Lundy folds, Eva 4 bets, I 5 bet she calls.......Turn 2 (4 suits on board)....I bet and Eva raises with complete confidence.....can I just call here or do I just have to 3 bet call a 4th bet and a river bet.

Thing is I have top full!!!!!! Other thing is she can not possibly have TT or AJ because she 3 bets those hands everytime.....so 22 seems hightly likely .
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:47 PM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

How about she has AA, KK, JTs.

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Old 08-18-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

I like a fold...I mean cmon. Call the floor and get them to take off the cap...and raise..
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

3-bet, call down a 4 given read.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:34 PM
Kevin J Kevin J is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

No offense, but if you didn't 4-bet Eva here, you deserve getting your balls busted! -lol. Her hand range is so wide, and her aggression so often misplaced, that she could have AJ, JT, TT, or she even could've gotten cute with something like AA. It's an absolute mandatory 4-bet IMO. If she 5-balls, I might even 6-ball it. Don't forget, she's not putting you on JJ, because you floated pf. If she's got 22, god bless her. She gets gets some of her money back.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:41 PM
Kevin J Kevin J is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

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Thing is I have top full!!!!!! Other thing is she can not possibly have TT or AJ because she 3 bets those hands everytime.....so 22 seems hightly likely .

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I agree this makes these hands less likely, but I've often seen her float AJ. I don't remember her ever doing it with TT, but that doesn't mean she never does. I have seen her get tricky with AA, KK. Add JT to the mix, and it's still much more likely she has one of these hands than quads. At least enough to risk 2 more bets.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

How about T2 or J2. If it's the lady I'm thinking of she can have both those hands on occasion. I agree with Kevin that she can go nuts without quads here. I 3bet if she 4 bets I go 5 maybe go 7 if she goes to 6.
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

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I think this hand is easy on line...live I dont....lets see what you think....

Lundy (fairly aggressive) raises in middle position.....Eva calls next in.....Im in the big blind with JJ and normally 3 bet here, but both these players will give me a ton of action if I disguise my hand so I just calll......

Flop JT2r, I chk, Lundy bets, Eva raises, I 3 bet, Lundy folds, Eva 4 bets, I 5 bet she calls.......Turn 2 (4 suits on board)....I bet and Eva raises with complete confidence.....can I just call here or do I just have to 3 bet call a 4th bet and a river bet.

Thing is I have top full!!!!!! Other thing is she can not possibly have TT or AJ because she 3 bets those hands everytime.....so 22 seems hightly likely .

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you disguised your hand, but now you hate it???? she doesn't have you on JJ OR TT. 3bone her ass.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:44 PM
Bill Haverchuck Bill Haverchuck is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 Commerce....what does she have?

edit: oops misread
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