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Old 07-10-2007, 10:48 PM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default I fold aces

no real reads, villains both seem aggro...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds,
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:52 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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Default Re: I fold aces

Call, raise blank turn?
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: I fold aces

Not a nice spot, but dont think I can fold just yet..
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:58 PM
sebastien sebastien is offline
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Default Re: I fold aces

i never fold here.
i don t know what is better about 3bet flop or calldown if no hearts fall.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: I fold aces

def 3 bet
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:37 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: I fold aces

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def 3 bet

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I think folding the flop is terrible and I also think 3betting the flop is terrible.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:46 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: I fold aces

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def 3 bet

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I think folding the flop is terrible and I also think 3betting the flop is terrible.

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Dont think theres value in knocking a potential heart out from SB?

Not sure how to play this one myself (def not fold)
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:56 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: I fold aces

"Dont think theres value in knocking a potential heart out from SB?"

Is this a joke? Anyone who bets this flop with a 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in their hand is never folding if the hero 3bets.

"Not sure how to play this one myself (def not fold)"

The flop is the standard situation where the hero probably has the best hand but the value of his hand will change so much depending on the turn card that its better to minimize his investment until he sees what that turn card is.

If the turn card is a blank, then the hero should strongly consider raising the turn unless he has a read that says not to, which in that case I would just call down and hope the river blanks off.

Bottom line is this, if the hero likes his hand enough to want to 3bet the flop, he will almost always be better off coldcalling the flop raise and waiting for a nice turn card to raise in this particular situation.
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:00 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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"Dont think theres value in knocking a potential heart out from SB?"

Is this a joke? Anyone who bets this flop with a 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in their hand is never folding if the hero 3bets.



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Meh, like you rational. A stupid player who would overvalue a crappy draw here enough to bet it, probabily isnt smart enough to realize to fold it to a 3-bet.
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:10 AM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Re: I fold aces

Sorry sethypooh, I'd put this somehwere between 1 and 2 BB mistake (having trouble stoving it...can anyone tell me how to enter Ah9x+ for instance?)
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