22, preflop, check

[Luckyz]

villian's stack $48
6more to call, is it worth calling?

Blinds: $1/$2

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $12</font>, Hero ???calls

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ??

[wrschultz]

If you're going to call this preflop, (which is pretty marginal, but I think bad in general,) you cannot fold it on a flop like this..

[Zagga]

I would push shorties like this with any pp, he most likely calls with any two overcards, 55-45 flippaments. Winning the flip gives you more stack and hence more implied odds, and this idiot may think it a terrible bad bead his AQ lost to 22 and go on monkeytilt, so 50-50 changes but winning is +EV lateron on the table.

Then again, maybe having no respect at all for shortstacks is a big leak in my game...

[cheer]

I would fold preflop. You are in a race or dominated... why play this hand when there are much better spots to stack a shortie?

[Luckyz]

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I would push shorties like this with any pp, he most likely calls with any two overcards, 55-45 flippaments. Winning the flip gives you more stack and hence more implied odds, and this idiot may think it a terrible bad bead his AQ lost to 22 and go on monkeytilt, so 50-50 changes but winning is +EV lateron on the table.

Then again, maybe having no respect at all for shortstacks is a big leak in my game...

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the thing is, im either a big dog or coinflip at best;/

[Loc0Loc0]

Hero is raising $6 to 8

Villain is raising $4 to 12

What do i miss here?

I might even shove his bet wich looks so weak... (I don't give shorties much respect)

[Luckyz]

he was in BB and raised to 14, 6more to call for me

if you shove, you are taking a coinflip at best, and a minraise from shortie could easily be a pair

[Loc0Loc0]

I mean post flop...

preflop i should call but its marginal...

[BobAllinSki]

I think a preflop fold is awefull, its a min raise, your getting over 3-1 with a pot sized bet left to play, you can set mine this profitably as you will get it all in when you hit often.

The flop is a yuk situation, I love players like this because they price you in with sets &amp; draws, I hate players like this when short because they can make really weak bets that give you a difficult decision, I'd probably pass this, you cant call and fold to a shove, shoving only really has merit over calling down if villain will call with ace high so regardless of the weakness of the bet it is a decision for the rest of his stack

[Grolsch]

preflop seems like an easy call since you're pretty much gonna stack him every time you flop a set w/ him being so short.

it's only 4 more to you for a chance to win 57 so like 14 to 1, right? easy call preflop. I'd fold the flop though