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Old 11-03-2007, 03:15 PM
HokieGreg HokieGreg is offline
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

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How bad is calling his flop min-raise? And why is it a bad move?

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the minraise to 160?

bc it could be a worse K, 8X, straight draws, etc
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

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You people are folding top pair top kicker in the first level of a 22?

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AK? On this board? I'm stacked every time.

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Thank you for restoring me to sanity.

After seeing the first few posts, I was starting to wonder how much of an idiot I am for getting stacked here almost every time.

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Old 11-03-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

People that fold AK on this flop I'd play all day at the $550s and $1100s. your hand is huge heads up and it's totally standard to get this all in.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:29 AM
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I would love to get this in normally, but not against this line against a player who takes this line. jeez, its hard to get me to fold middle pair let alone tptk normally, but this line is not normal. Seriously, what the hell are people saying "get it in" putting him on? this is KQ just about never.

So to reiterate, I would never normally fold this hand on this flop, But I normally would have nothing to do with minraising either! 3betting or even 4betting this hand AI is standard, but not 5 betting it! especially when the guy is begging for a call
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:58 AM
BINGOBANGOFTP BINGOBANGOFTP is offline
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

the betting was weird, which is why AK looks beat. If the OP bet, the villain, raised, and the OP shoved, it'd be normal and certainly reasonable, with the betting going the way it did, it looks closer to when two limit players are reraising each other because they know they have the nuts - except all the hero has here is top pair top kicker. I'd expect top two or trips here more often than a weaker king. (hey, i think this is one long poorly written sentence)

I'd probably end up shoving or calling a shove here anyway, but I wouldn't expect to win.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:41 AM
BINGOBANGOFTP BINGOBANGOFTP is offline
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editing not allowed, but I doubt trips after looking again. You probably see a reraise preflop with 8s or 7s. the weird betting looks a lot like k8 or k7. i wish the results weren't posted, but it still looks like what he shows up with.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:27 AM
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I disagree about a reraise preflop: it is standard from a strong player, but this guy's flop line (whatever he had) shows him to be pretty sucky, and in my experience most sucky players do no reraise 77/88 pre. But I do agree that I wish results hadn't been posted.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:16 AM
HokieGreg HokieGreg is offline
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

Dear OP,

Thanks for posting results. Most of the responses you are getting are completely results-oriented.

Regards,

HokieGreg

P.S.- The focus in this thread should be that he needs to raise a lot more on his 4bet.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:41 AM
tmcdmck tmcdmck is offline
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

greg, your post was really unhelpful, no need for the sarcasm: it has already been mentioned that posting the results was a mistake, and that raises needed to be larger. As for the posts being results oriented, i suspect you are only saying that because of the number of posts that say "fold" (ie any), when infact i deeply believe that a fold is the correct line anyway (yes it is possible i was swung by the results, but i genuinely put thought into it, and feel it is a fold against the opponents range, not just the hand they happened to have. as i commented: is this really ever KQ?
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:48 AM
HokieGreg HokieGreg is offline
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Default Re: Any major leaks how I played this??

Funny how the only people that agree with me in this thread are BCM, ChicagoRy, and TNixon.
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