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Old 11-20-2007, 11:24 PM
Mench Mench is offline
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Default Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

Assume villain is unknown and my image is tight due to being card dead.


Seat 1: VERY_HIGH (3192 in chips)
Seat 2: cizmakk (4135 in chips)
Seat 3: tvcsa85 (16064 in chips)
Seat 4: HH_INC. (3250 in chips)
Seat 5: top9999 (9101 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (1410 in chips)
Seat 7: slyfoxxtbb (4815 in chips)
Seat 8: Amas (3860 in chips)
Seat 9: TheMasterJ33 (4043 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind 75
slyfoxxtbb: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [5s 7h]
Amas: folds
TheMasterJ33: folds
VERY_HIGH: folds
cizmakk: folds
tvcsa85: folds
HH_INC.: folds
top9999: folds
HERO: raises 1260 to 1410 and is all-in
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:26 PM
Rekwob Rekwob is offline
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

i always thought this a standard shove if the dealer forgot to deal you cards tbh
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

Confirmed.
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:42 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

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i always thought this a standard shove if the dealer forgot to deal you cards tbh

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Given BB is unknown, I agree
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:44 PM
MaverickUSC MaverickUSC is offline
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

so not standard or good or... wtf?
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

war, what do you mean?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

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war, what do you mean?

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If Villain believes you're pushing any 2 here, then he's calling with 69% of his range (the bottom of which gives him the required 44% equity against a random hand), which makes pushing 75o hugely -cEV in this spot, -222 chips. Everything is a function of the calling range your opponent. According to conventional wisdom, a standard, unknowledgeable Villain is going to be calling tight enough (less than 36% of his range) to make shoving 75o here +cEV.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:21 AM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Re: Stars Nightly - Running Bad Latly, Confirm this is a standard push

I meant vs. random you don't even need 2 cards to shove.

Against someone that knows what they're doing I'm shoving all but the very worst of hands
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:56 AM
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i don't think so. u can definitely wait for better spot, especially given BB stack, which may make him inclined to call semilight. u have almost 10BB after posting ur small. I'm shoving here w/ any pair, any ace, most kings, two face cards, and high(910 89) suited connectors.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:18 AM
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i don't think so. u can definitely wait for better spot, especially given BB stack, which may make him inclined to call semilight. u have almost 10BB after posting ur small. I'm shoving here w/ any pair, any ace, most kings, two face cards, and high(910 89) suited connectors.

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This range is way too tight.
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