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Old 11-19-2007, 01:56 PM
RThomas RThomas is offline
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Default $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

I wish I could say I had a read on this opponent, but the only note I had was that he played very loose from the blinds. This was the first hand he had come over the top of a raise. I originally thought that not betting the turn was my biggest mistake, because it seems like I telegraph that I have AK/AQ here and he shuts down with overpairs. Though, I'm really, really confused at what to put him on here.

Should I be betting out on the turn to represent that i'm bet/folding a pair like tens or jacks? I was confused at his check behind on the flop; not sure whether this meant a couple big unpaired cards, or a pair smaller than nines, or what it could be.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t18275)
MP3 (t12314)
CO (t23085)
Button (t11471)
SB (t14935)
BB (t3369)
UTG (t8835)
Hero (t24004)
MP1 (t3015)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t2915</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t6000</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t3600.

Flop: (t15515) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t15515) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t15515) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t4800</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: t15515
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:00 PM
jonnyd jonnyd is offline
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

the flop is okay but really, bet the turn
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

I open shove the flop. If we were deeper (like 2/3 PSB effective), I'd C/R AI.
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

i shove pre...is this bad?

MP1 can have any pair/high cards/SC (he has 3 BB's)

FE is slim after CO commits 1/4 his stack but w/ blinds &amp; antes + all that money...

I mean flat calling leaves us w/ ~1 PSB OOP...what flops are you leading, what flops are you trying to check down, when are you ck/folding?
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

Gotta shove flop or turn
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

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the flop is okay but really, bet the turn

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Old 11-19-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

CO could just be trying to make a really weak iso-play pf with like, 66-88 or something, but regardless it's good (and probably standard) to get it in pf, on the flop, OR on the turn. don't think too much. most times when your opponent checks, he's weak enough to fold. not always...but most. me, personally, i open shove the flop. any hand he has, you're certainly live against if he calls at all. get it in there, take it down.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

I'd push PreFlop.

I'd push the Flop.

I'd push the Turn.

I'd push the River. (Especially here as I want this to seem like an overbet/steal and induce a call).
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:27 PM
EroTheMad EroTheMad is offline
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

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I'd push PreFlop.

I'd push the Flop.

I'd push the Turn.

I'd push the River. (Especially here as I want this to seem like an overbet/steal and induce a call).

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As Popped Rod said.

The flop was great, the turn was greater, river is ok card here. Build the pot. Bet every turn at least 2/3.
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:48 PM
wannabe2 wannabe2 is offline
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Default Re: $11 20k gtd: AKs UTG vs pos 3-bet; should I bet turn?

bet flop
bet flop
bet flop
then
bet turn
bet turn
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