Dear Phil Ivey, I am available for PLO coaching - I think you need it!

[luckyjimm]

Exhibit A, getting it in with rubbish hand which bizarelly holds up in 35/65 situation. Don't go bust with two pair, Phil!:

Full Tilt Poker Game #3301376884: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:51:51 ET - 2007/08/19
Seat 1: WaterIntoWine ($62,874)
Seat 2: LarsLuzak ($40,908)
Seat 3: Phil Ivey ($73,256)
Seat 4: David Benyamine ($87,152)
Seat 5: barbarah ($8,000)
Seat 6: 20KJAY ($8,000)
LarsLuzak has 5 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak posts the small blind of $200
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $400
20KJAY posts $400
5 seconds left to act
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
David Benyamine folds
20KJAY checks
WaterIntoWine raises to $1,800
LarsLuzak has 15 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak calls $1,600
Phil Ivey calls $1,400
20KJAY has 15 seconds left to act
20KJAY folds
*** FLOP *** [9d Js 3s]
LarsLuzak has 15 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak checks
Phil Ivey bets $5,200
WaterIntoWine folds
LarsLuzak has 15 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak raises to $18,888
Phil Ivey raises to $62,464
LarsLuzak calls $20,220, and is all in
Phil Ivey shows [7h 9c Jc Ts]
LarsLuzak shows [9h Ks Td Qs]
Uncalled bet of $23,356 returned to Phil Ivey
*** TURN *** [9d Js 3s] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [9d Js 3s 7d] [5h]
Phil Ivey shows two pair, Jacks and Nines
LarsLuzak shows a pair of Nines
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($84,014) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
LarsLuzak is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $84,016 | Rake $2
Board: [9d Js 3s 7d 5h]
Seat 1: WaterIntoWine (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: LarsLuzak (small blind) showed [9h Ks Td Qs] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [7h 9c Jc Ts] and won ($84,014) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 4: David Benyamine didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: barbarah is sitting out
Seat 6: 20KJAY folded before the Flop

Exhibit B: Okay, you bet your blocker on the flop; I think anything calling you there has you beat on the turn and you really ought to get away from this, Phil.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3301491261: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 16:03:26 ET - 2007/08/19
Seat 1: WaterIntoWine ($65,468)
Seat 2: LarsLuzak ($39,600)
Seat 3: Phil Ivey ($136,361)
Seat 4: David Benyamine ($99,743)
Seat 5: barbarah ($18,994)
Seat 6: 20KJAY ($0), is sitting out
LarsLuzak has 5 seconds left to act
LarsLuzak posts the small blind of $200
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
David Benyamine folds
barbarah raises to $1,400
WaterIntoWine calls $1,400
LarsLuzak folds
Phil Ivey raises to $5,800
barbarah calls $4,400
WaterIntoWine calls $4,400
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8s As]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $10,000
barbarah folds
WaterIntoWine has 15 seconds left to act
WaterIntoWine calls $10,000
*** TURN *** [Qs 8s As] [Qc]
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
Phil Ivey bets $32,400
WaterIntoWine has 15 seconds left to act
WaterIntoWine calls $32,400
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8s As Qc] [Th]
Phil Ivey checks
WaterIntoWine checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phil Ivey shows [Kh Ks 5c 4c] two pair, Kings and Queens
WaterIntoWine shows [Qh 9s 5s Kd] a flush, Ace high
WaterIntoWine wins the pot ($102,398) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $102,400 | Rake $2
Board: [Qs 8s As Qc Th]
Seat 1: WaterIntoWine (button) showed [Qh 9s 5s Kd] and won ($102,398) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: LarsLuzak (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [Kh Ks 5c 4c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 4: David Benyamine didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: barbarah folded on the Flop
Seat 6: 20KJAY is sitting out

If you read this, Phil, I am available for PLO coaching at very competitive rates!

[bones]

Why not just coach him in exchange for him staking you at .05/.10 plo?

Also, and I may be going out on a limb here, Ivey probably has reasons for these plays that may not be apparent to you. Like in hand 1, I'm pretty sure Lars raises with less than huge wraps. Ivey shoves to price out/push his equity against those hands, which probably make up a greater % of his range than wraps/sets. If he gets called, it's prob fine because his equity isn't all that bad.

Hand 2, he's obviously repping a big flush or aces/AQ and is trying to move water off of a weaker flush. And uh...he did give it up on the riv.

Plz stick to posting hands without comment kthx

[btmagnetw]

stop replying to jim. if you ignore him, he goes away.

[luckyjimm]

Yeah hand 2 at first I didn't see he had the blocker to the nut flush. But hand 1 does suck as so much will outdraw him.

Kthx

[luckyjimm]

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stop replying to jim. if you ignore him, he goes away.

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Not true, sadly

[blah_blah]

both hands look fine. the queen is a good card for ivey to bluff on the turn in hand 2.

[ifoughtpiranhas]

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stop replying to jim. if you ignore him, he goes away.

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Not true, sadly

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ive said it before but
I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] jimm

[luckyjimm]

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both hands look fine. the queen is a good card for ivey to bluff on the turn in hand 2.

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Okay, second hand is fine.

But first hand sucks. He knows he is a dog to a big draw. The only explanation I can think of would be if Lars had a history of stacking off with even less.

[slowhand5]

The big PLO games play very aggressive and if I'm not mistaken I'm sure Lars is a very aggressive player. That being said Lars has a huge range of hands here where he would raise preflop and re-raise a bet on the flop. He might have a naked flush draw, a big pair, a straight draw, or just pure air. I think Phil running into a big wrap + flush draw here will rarely happen. Against a rock Phil is making a big mistake but against an aggressive top pro its a really standard play.

[Eaglesfan1]

Hand #2 is a bluff... you idiot.