river bluff vs. 2p2er

[PUBgrub]

im not sure i understand your play on the river. are you raising thinking you have the best hand, or are you trying to push him off a weak Q?

seems kinda like you raised for the sake of raising...

[Paul Thomson]

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im not sure i understand your play on the river. are you raising thinking you have the best hand, or are you trying to push him off a weak Q?

seems kinda like you raised for the sake of raising...

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both. we have the best hand alot. but if we don't then given his check on the turn, we'll probably fold him off of a queen.

[tannenj]

i thought this was clear, but the river bet is a pure bluff. he is never calling with worse.

i felt that the vast majority of his range was one-pair hands. some of them beat me, some of them don't. my thinking was that if i called, i'd beat stuff like 99 but get towned by stuff like QJ. however, if i raised, he'd fold his queens, and he'd also fold his 99-type hands, which is obviously not a bad thing (and it'd decrease my green line/blue line gap! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]).

edit: i'm not disputing that calling might've been profitable. if it was, though, that doesn't mean that raising wasn't better.

[AE6]

this is pretty sick fly when he calls with 88....but yah i really doubt he's ever folding a queen here

[ikestoys]

if he folded, you had the best hand...

squeeze pre 100%

[tannenj]

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if he folded, you had the best hand...

squeeze pre 100%

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great post

edit: do you pay off every time a villain takes a non-standard line? from reading your posts, it seems to me that thinking, trappy tags would have a field day against you.

[ikestoys]

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if he folded, you had the best hand...

squeeze pre 100%

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great post

edit: do you pay off every time a villain takes a non-standard line? from reading your posts, it seems to me that thinking, trappy tags would have a field day against you.

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we aren't playing me, you are playing a 30/10/1, he's not folding a Q

your assholery is excused.

[carnivalhobo]

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if he folded, you had the best hand...

squeeze pre 100%

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great post

edit: do you pay off every time a villain takes a non-standard line? from reading your posts, it seems to me that thinking, trappy tags would have a field day against you.

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we aren't playing me, you are playing a 30/10/1, he's not folding a Q

your assholery is excused.

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read the post ftw

[tannenj]

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this is pretty sick fly when he calls with 88....but yah i really doubt he's ever folding a queen here

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i'm pretty sure the villain will fold a queen (fwiw, if he doesn't, he loses major gbucks). if i'm not confident that he dumps a queen, i don't even consider making this play.

[djj6835]

If his range is something like KQ,QJ,88,99 and some small percentage of bluffs can we even call profitably here?