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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
I think you are assuming these opponents think like you much more than they actually do. In my experience, the type of opponents OP describes love to play the flop backwards.
Sounds to me like OP is toasted cheerios way more often than 1/3 of the time and is not closing the action. Folding sets on the turn in limit hold'em is generally bad poker but I think this is one of the rare spots where it's ok. |
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
Wow. No 2 people have advocated the same response yet. That's hard to find.
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
Call. I'm sure there is reasonable chance that you're ahead, and I think you want both players to stay with since you at least have ONE of them beaten (or at least have boat outs), and if not, they'll let you know.
I think raising here is bad as you'll never fold a hand that will clean up your outs if you're behind the straight. |
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
u have to ask urself, are these the kind of dopes that flop sets and check? Its so basic but Foxwoods players will do it but they are bottom of the barrel, like dcb777.
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
I probably 3bet and regret it later.
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
3-bet is the best option here. Unless these clowns are known for slowplaying monsters by not making a preliminary bet on the flop (and not many people do this).
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
Professor would never check this flop if he flopped a set after raising preflop. So basically he probably didn't connect too well and is taking a stab in my experience. It's the other guy you have to worry about - if he flopped a straight or two pair, why would he check the flop? Same with a set, particularly something like JJ that he might not reraise pre (though most people do). So either he has broadway or he doesn't.
I raise it again personally. Jeff |
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
[ QUOTE ]
Professor would never check this flop if he flopped a set after raising preflop. So basically he probably didn't connect too well and is taking a stab in my experience. [/ QUOTE ] I would put the prof on ak,aq or aj. He got a piece with a inside draw. I don't think he is gonna try to get cute with that board. [ QUOTE ] It's the other guy you have to worry about - if he flopped a straight or two pair, why would he check the flop? Same with a set, particularly something like JJ that he might not reraise pre (though most people do). So either he has broadway or he doesn't. [/ QUOTE ] I agree there is no way he plays a set or two pair like this. He has to have a10 here. I wouldn't raise here though, I would likely just call. Unless the prof looks like he's about to jump out of his seat to put in another raise. But what do I know I can't even afford to play in these games haha. |
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
<drunk> guys we need to weight prof calling thin on the turn here drawing slim with the range of other guys hands. If we 3-bet the prof is almost always folding, but will often times call one more. I don't think we're ahead of the other often enough hu to 3-bet as live tight wierd guys love doing 'tricky stuff' like checking behind flops with monsters to 'trap' people.
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Re: I screwed this one up bad.
El professor can have many many combos of cards in that position as can the button. The only hand checking that flop is A-10. If that's out there so be it. On that turn make it 3 bets, since it is possible someone has a 10 without a made straight....10-10, K-10. I think you are often ahead here and will only get action on the river if they get there. problem for you is any card that pairs the board other than a 3 will be hard to push since it's possible one of them has made an overfull to your 3's full. So pump it on the turn. See the action and decide. These players can call and bet bad enough that folding to an unimproved river is a bad decision.
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