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Old 11-03-2007, 07:48 PM
wiper wiper is offline
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back to the top...

do bcs rankings go this low?
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:03 PM
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Next Year, Notre Dame 6-6
2 years from now Notre Dame 12-0 National Champs
3 years from now Notre Dame 12-0 National Champs

The master plan is unfolding...
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:24 PM
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Next Year, Notre Dame 6-6
2 years from now Notre Dame 12-0 National Champs
3 years from now Notre Dame 12-0 National Champs

The master plan is unfolding...

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Are you really that confident Fat Charlie gets axed after next year?
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:37 PM
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Next Year, Notre Dame 6-6
2 years from now Notre Dame 12-0 National Champs
3 years from now Notre Dame 12-0 National Champs

The master plan is unfolding...

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Are you really that confident Fat Charlie gets axed after next year?

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lol
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:07 PM
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Weis's playcalling made me want to puke today. If Navy can't stop the run...ever...why bother passing? He gets too cute schematically for his own good sometimes. Us poker players call it "fancy play syndrome."


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From what I've seen, I agree with this assessment. I've found alot of his playcalls in some situations questionable.

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Many Domers will jump off the Weis bandwagon after this game

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I perused some ND boards and a few actually said as much as they wanted to blame Ty, they couldn't on this one.

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Old 11-04-2007, 12:11 AM
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I think people tend to underestimate just how horrible the Willingham recruiting effort was.


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Who recruited Sharpley, the QB who couldn't beat Navy?
Who recruited Zbikowski, the punt returner who put his team in position to win?
Who recruited Walker, the kicker who Weis didn't have enough faith in to attempt to win the game in regulation?
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:42 AM
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I think people tend to underestimate just how horrible the Willingham recruiting effort was.


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Who recruited Sharpley, the QB who couldn't beat Navy?
Who recruited Zbikowski, the punt returner who put his team in position to win?
Who recruited Walker, the kicker who Weis didn't have enough faith in to attempt to win the game in regulation?

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When you are guys going to accept the fact that Ty Willingham and his golfing habits are totally to blame for this Navy loss? Weis's poor in-game decisions are obviously the result of late onset long term psychological trauma from Willingham leaving the program in such shambles.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:49 AM
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Actually a lot the NDNation people are jumping ship. There is much talk about "one game making all the difference", which is hilarious. We've seen this for weeks (months, really), but they think this game made the difference because they were blind for the first 8 games. Brilliant.

Although it is sad if NDNation gives up on him. Sure, their arguments about whether Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, or the ghost of Vince Lombardi will pay millions for the privilege to be their next coach, but that just isn't as good as the glorious rationalizations.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:14 AM
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I think people tend to underestimate just how horrible the Willingham recruiting effort was.


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Who recruited Sharpley, the QB who couldn't beat Navy?
Who recruited Zbikowski, the punt returner who put his team in position to win?
Who recruited Walker, the kicker who Weis didn't have enough faith in to attempt to win the game in regulation?

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Don't even bother explaining this one.

I've been vocaal about the harm Ty's done to the program, but trying to blame anyone but the current regime for this loss is insane.

Run, run, run. Be semi-competent on defense. Don't turn the ball over. Win. How hard of a game plan is that to execute?

I think what hurts most for ND fans right now is that Weis is an ND guy. He's a graduate, and he fully understands the importance of the program's tradition and and returning it to championship caliber. His gesture of allowing freshman RB Robert Hughes to score in the 1st quarter (his older brother was shot and killed earlier in the week) was awesome. Because he is so in tune with the Irish community, he's enjoyed support not seen since Lou Holtz roamed the Irish sidelines. Next year will confirm it for sure with his performance working with a large talent influx, but this loss could mean that CW is "willing, but unable" to succeed at ND. I'd argue both Davie and Willingham were unwilling and unable, but unfortunately for CW, my characterization puts him squarely in the company of Gerry Faust.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:19 AM
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I refer you to the great quotable enemy of ND, coach John McKay his Bucs went 0-14:

"Who cares? It doesn't matter if you aren't first. Seattle won two games. Should we throw them a party?"


In other words, if Notre Dame beats Navy in the final seconds... So What? Is that going to mean anything in 2008?

- The Fat Man is Still Our Savior
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