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Old 11-23-2007, 07:15 PM
Speedlimits Speedlimits is offline
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Default Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?

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lol, please dont shove pf

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y not? vs.70% defends how much do u think u get a fold there? vs.any decent calling range AA KK QQ JJ even AK even AQ whats that like 3-4% of hands

so out of the 30% that he defends with 26% of those are folds... 26/30 = 86% folding with allot of money in the pot already..not to mention times ur behind and come out ahead by the river

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shoving is so bad. 4bet pf is a decent option though given stack sizes. still like calling ip better because our hand has value.
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?

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Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $17

Flop: ($49) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32

Turn: ($113) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $72</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $237.80 and is All-In</font>,

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i hate shoving this turn vs almost anyone.
what exaclty are you trying to get to fold? villain isnt folding AX here. If he folds its because he has KK or less and you just lost all value your top pair had. But if he does have a better AX he still stacks off on like any river.
imo calling &gt; shoving &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; folding
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - 150BB Turn Semi Bluff, Good Spot or Spew?

OK I've learnt my lesson. It's a defo call situation.

Villain had pocket 9's. A SET. Reload. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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