Call this based completely on odds?

[teh_mewse]

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SB could me minraising a lot of hands that he isn't going to play for stacks, like A8 and stuff raising to "see where your at." BB probably has just a draw or something. You can't really profitably call to hit a 2 outer unless you knew SB had AJ.

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AJ was my initial read, BB on flush draw, but obv can't be sure

[jkkkk]

drawing for 2 outs wooooooooooooooooooo

nope, fold

[jkkkk]

push for metagame

[jkkkk]

merge

[student_of_game]

It seems like your reads would have to be absolutely spot on to make this call +EV (and even still, it may only be slightly +EV).

However:
(1) One of the villains may have a set
(2) Even if you hit your two outer, you may not get paid off
(3) Even if you hit your two outer and get all the money in, villains may have redraws.

[psuasskicker]

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(3) Even if you hit your two outer and get all the money in, villains may have redraws.

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[WHoSBeTTaTHaNuS]

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push for metagame

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[teh_mewse]

alright well here it is, i guess my reads were spot on

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $984.95
BB: $591.00
UTG: $1,551.75
Hero (BTN): $1,027.72

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, SB calls $18.00, BB calls $15.00

Flop: ($63) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $90.00</font>, BB calls $90.00, Hero calls $45.00

Turn: ($333) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $300.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $480.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $916.72</font>, SB calls all-in for $573.95
Uncalled bet of $42.77 returned to Hero

River: ($2560.90) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $2,560.90 ($2 Rake)

BB had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pairs, Aces and Jacks) and LOST (-$591.00)
SB had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pairs, Aces and Jacks) and LOST (-$984.95)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Nines) and WON (+$1,573.95)

[Dan BRIGHT]

yea you have no odds at all.... maybe check out the LHE forum for pot odds when you wanna draw to a 2 outer

[teh_mewse]

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yea you have no odds at all.... maybe check out the LHE forum for pot odds when you wanna draw to a 2 outer

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i'm getting 6.5:1 pot odds and huge implieds for a 1:20. I only called because the BB cold called the minraise