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$50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
villain is 19/11 likes to check raise. Should I be folding this preflop after being raised? How do you play this?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com Button ($48.25) SB ($52.55) BB ($42.50) Hero ($93.50) MP ($48.50) CO ($49.25) Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $5.50. Flop: ($15.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $41</font>, Hero calls $28. Turn: ($97.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: ($97.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $97.75 |
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
fold pf. otherwise, this is standard. sorry you lost
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
LOL who said I cant post a hand that I win. Thought it was an interesting situation. This guy I know has no problem playing big pots, so doesnt that give me the implied odds to call to hit my set?
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
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This guy I know has no problem playing big pots, so doesnt that give me the implied odds to call to hit my set? [/ QUOTE ]Fold preflop. Calling is bad bad bad. |
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
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LOL who said I cant post a hand that I win. Thought it was an interesting situation. This guy I know has no problem playing big pots, so doesnt that give me the implied odds to call to hit my set? [/ QUOTE ] if you won fine, that's not the point. this guy's 3bet range is crushing you. if you were both deep it would be a different story. |
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
Maybe I have been playing live too much. If I am pretty sure this guy will pay me off with AA if i hit my set why do I not call? I am almost 200bb deep
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
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Maybe I have been playing live too much. If I am pretty sure this guy will pay me off with AA if i hit my set why do I not call? I am almost 200bb deep [/ QUOTE ] your stack size is irrelevant b/c he has less than you. you effectively have 97bbs. |
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
ok that still kind of deep right?
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
no. it's <full buy-in
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Re: $50nl bottom set monotone flop your play?
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[ QUOTE ] Maybe I have been playing live too much. If I am pretty sure this guy will pay me off with AA if i hit my set why do I not call? I am almost 200bb deep [/ QUOTE ] your stack size is irrelevant b/c he has less than you. you effectively have 97bbs. [/ QUOTE ] It's a leak to call here. It's tempting to look just at the odds of hitting your set, but there is more involved. Significantly, he will occasionally suck-out or flop set-over-set. Let's assume he has AA, and is going to shove any flop. You call on any flop with a 7. Let the size of the remaining stacks going to the flop be 1 unit. x denotes any card that is not an A or 7. P(7xx Flop) = 2*44c2 / 48c3 = 0.109389454 P(A7x Flop) = 2*2*44c1 / 48c3 = 0.010175763 On the 7xx flop, your equity is about 90% (He can catch an A or a 4-flush) Ev (7xx Flop) = (1) * (90%) - (1) * (10%) = 0.80 On the A7x flop, your equity is about 5% Ev (A7x Flop) = -0.90 I'm going to ignore the instances of quads (about 50x less likely that a set) Ev (seeing a flop) = 0.109389454 * 0.80 - 0.010175763 * 0.90 = 0.078353 1/0.078353 = 12.76269185 So even in this idealised case, your implied odds are 11.7:1 (note this is not enough to call in OP) If we put him on a more realistic (yet still conservative) range of AK,QQ+ it's even worse. He will not stack off with QQ,KK on ace-high flops, cutting your implied odds some more. AK is terrible for you - the chance of both AK and 77 hitting is about 3%, so setmining is not going to work... yet you are going to lose the flops where you both miss, because even when it's obvious the flop missed AK, his range (QQ+,AK) is too strong to continue against: Board: 9s 5h 2d 201,960 games 0.005 secs 40,392,000 games/sec Board: 9s 5s 2d Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 60.462% 60.46% 00.00% 122109 0.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo } Hand 1: 39.538% 39.54% 00.00% 79851 0.00 { 77 } I think that even against a 3-bettor you need at least 15:1 implied odds to setmine. |
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