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Old 06-13-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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You really think that most oponants are going to call off a $21 bet into this pot with a hand like a weak pair of tens. Do you really think that?


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It doesn't matter what most opponents will do, it matters what this opponent will.

If he's been a total donkey thus far, I'd be apt to try and stack him right now. It all comes down to reads and of course since OP didn't have any reads of substance folding the flop is probably the best line.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

jesus, shove flop.

and if you're folding when he 3bets your raise, don't raise the flop in the first place.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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jesus, shove flop.

and if you're folding when he 3bets your raise, don't raise the flop in the first place.

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Old 06-13-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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jesus, shove flop.


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Why is this such an easy shove? We are 120BB deep and villain is obviously willing to spend it all. Is this standard against a 52/24/2?
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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jesus, shove flop.


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Why is this such an easy shove? We are 120BB deep and villain is obviously willing to spend it all. Is this standard against a 52/24/2?

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in my opinion, shoving this flop over a raise is the best play against a lot of villains. definitely a 52/24/2.
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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and if you're folding when he 3bets your raise, don't raise the flop in the first place.

[/ QUOTE ]Results oriented thinking? Most of the times they will just call the flop with their flush draw/TP[cencored]kicker and pay you off.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

Maybe im missreading this hand. villian was 52/24/2
I am reading this as he is playin about 52% of his hands. Raising 24% of them and his overall aggression factor is 2. Not exactly sure what that last bit really means but it seems low to me. If I am reading this completely wrong then please let me know. Thanks.
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

Call the flop. No reason to fold to a min-3bet... just slow down and see what the next card is.
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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Maybe im missreading this hand. villian was 52/24/2
I am reading this as he is playin about 52% of his hands. Raising 24% of them and his overall aggression factor is 2. Not exactly sure what that last bit really means but it seems low to me. If I am reading this completely wrong then please let me know. Thanks.

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read what i posted in the OP. i didnt know if i put the right one down either. no one has told me i did the wrong one yet so im assuming its right, right ? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-15-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - folding TPTK to flop aggression?

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and if you're folding when he 3bets your raise, don't raise the flop in the first place.

[/ QUOTE ]Results oriented thinking? Most of the times they will just call the flop with their flush draw/TP[cencored]kicker and pay you off.

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no. raise-folding this flop turns tptk into a bluff.

this is actually one of the clearer shoves i've seen on here in a while.
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