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Old 01-28-2007, 11:22 PM
fluorescenthippo fluorescenthippo is offline
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Default 114s - 99 PF push or call?

everyone has like 1500 lvl3. mp1 who is like 35/24 opens for 150. CO calls and z32fanatic calls on the button. im SB with 99. pot is 525

push or call?
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

I think this is an ok spot to push; if MP1 was tighter I'd prefer a call.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

I like a shove.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

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I think this is an ok spot to push; if MP1 was tighter I'd prefer a call.

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this was my thinking as well. TT+ is obvious and 88 may just be a call, i figured 99 was about the cutoff
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

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I think this is an ok spot to push; if MP1 was tighter I'd prefer a call.

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this was my thinking as well. TT+ is obvious and 88 may just be a call, i figured 99 was about the cutoff

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24 percent is a huge range of hands.

88 is a push for me and I think 77 would be pretty damn close.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

I think shoving and calling are both perfectly reasonable, but I think a shove picks up more chips in the long run.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

This is a really weird spot as z32's cold call doesn't make sense for like any hands.
I think I call, but a shove can't be bad with that much dead in the middle.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

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I think this is an ok spot to push; if MP1 was tighter I'd prefer a call.

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this was my thinking as well. TT+ is obvious and 88 may just be a call, i figured 99 was about the cutoff

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24 percent is a huge range of hands.

88 is a push for me and I think 77 would be pretty damn close.

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agreed, 32/24 is insane over even 50 hands. Pretty easy push unless you really think z is trapping, which I doubt as he knows the raiser is lag.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

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I think this is an ok spot to push; if MP1 was tighter I'd prefer a call.

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this was my thinking as well. TT+ is obvious and 88 may just be a call, i figured 99 was about the cutoff

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24 percent is a huge range of hands.

88 is a push for me and I think 77 would be pretty damn close.

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agreed, 32/24 is insane over even 50 hands. Pretty easy push unless you really think z is trapping, which I doubt as he knows the raiser is lag.

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it was over 131 hands. mostly from other tables. idk if z32 knows his range so he might have like TT or something id be worried about him calling with
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: 114s - 99 PF push or call?

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I think this is an ok spot to push; if MP1 was tighter I'd prefer a call.

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this was my thinking as well. TT+ is obvious and 88 may just be a call, i figured 99 was about the cutoff

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24 percent is a huge range of hands.

88 is a push for me and I think 77 would be pretty damn close.

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agreed, 32/24 is insane over even 50 hands. Pretty easy push unless you really think z is trapping, which I doubt as he knows the raiser is lag.

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it was over 131 hands. mostly from other tables. idk if z32 knows his range so he might have like TT or something id be worried about him calling with

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even with only 1 tourney in his database on villain, Z is going to know if he is a lagfish or not. he is definitely repopping TT here.
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