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Old 06-26-2007, 08:26 PM
cougar62 cougar62 is offline
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Default 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

Tell me what you think of this one. PF I think I'm ok, not c-betting this is probably terrible. I keep thinking he's got AQ, I know it, and when he calls the turn bet I'm convinced...so I check the river when my ace spikes. Genious or really stupid? I rarely put villians on only a single hand, but in this hand as played is there any reason to bet the river, figuring only a set or AQ calls?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1460)
UTG (t1850)
UTG+1 (t1690)
MP1 (t600)
MP2 (t1440)
MP3 (t2060)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t180</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t150.

Flop: (t465) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t465) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t210</font>, MP3 calls t210.

River: (t885) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t885
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:30 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

If you just "think" he has AQ for no particular reason then you should be betting this river, many other hands will call that you beat.

Edit: And yes c-bet 300 or so.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:32 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

If you're gonna bet the turn just bet the flop? And holy cow value bet the river unless you know he checks the onions on the river for some reason. Also pf in a $6 with 3 limpers already I just limp along, does anyone think that's bad?
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

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Also pf in a $6 with 3 limpers already I just limp along, does anyone think that's bad?

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No, I'll do this too, not every time tho. Most of the time in a 6.50 raising after 3 limpers is just building a huge pot.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

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Also pf in a $6 with 3 limpers already I just limp along, does anyone think that's bad?

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No, I'll do this too, not every time tho. Most of the time in a 6.50 raising after 3 limpers is just building a huge pot.

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Which you don't mind doing, since you have a premium hand.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

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Also pf in a $6 with 3 limpers already I just limp along, does anyone think that's bad?

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No, I'll do this too, not every time tho. Most of the time in a 6.50 raising after 3 limpers is just building a huge pot.

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Which you don't mind doing, since you have a premium hand.

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I concur, raising against 3 limpers should be the better play; why let less than stellar hands get any further in the hand, make them pay to beat you. I am typically raising 5-7xBB against 3 limpers.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:01 PM
STALLOWN3D STALLOWN3D is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

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Also pf in a $6 with 3 limpers already I just limp along, does anyone think that's bad?

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No, I'll do this too, not every time tho. Most of the time in a 6.50 raising after 3 limpers is just building a huge pot.

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Which you don't mind doing, since you have a premium hand.

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You never limp along in this spot? I don't do it often but there are times with certain tables where I think its best to just limp behind and take a flop.

I'm by no means advocating limping AK every time you get it.

Maybe I'm way off here since I don't have a strong argument for doing it, just going off of experience.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

Premium is one thing, but against 3 limpers at this buy in, IF I am raising, it is not to build a pot, but rather to thin the field. IMHO AK plays best with a smaller pot PF against several limpers, or if it is going to be a bigger pot, against 1 or 2 opponenets.

I play both ways, though in this case I like the argument for thinning the field AND potentially buying the button.

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Old 06-26-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

I can see a few situations where limping behind w/ AK would pay off (getting AT+ allin on Axx board) and about 1000 where you would win a small pot or lose a big one.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Am I trying to be Negreanu here?

Yeah, after thinking about it more I'm raising in this spot.
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