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Ethical question
Playing 8/16 LHE last night. I'm SB with AXs. Turn completes my flush with 3 other players in the hand. I am distracted ordering a drink and am not watching when the turn card comes out. UTG+1 bets and MP calls before I turn my attention back to the table. LP is contemplating a call when a player not in the hand asks the dealer whether I checked. Dealer looks at me and I say, "yes, its good". LP calls, I raise, and everyone calls. Karma does not exact revenge as my flush holds up through the river and I win the pot.
I felt pretty dirty after, which probably means that I should have just said that I had not acted yet. However, I wanted to check with the collective wisdom of the B&M forum. Did I shoot an angle in this situation? |
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Re: Ethical question
If you said: "I have not acted, I check" then the result would have been the same.
Also, it is your responsibility to protect your action, you did not do this and there was significant action behind you. I don't even know if you would get to act first again even if you had objected. No need to feel dirty here |
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Re: Ethical question
No angle.
You exploited their impatience. Screw em. b |
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Re: Ethical question
I've got caught in this situation before, sometimes when the card just dealt gave me a monster but more often when it was a blank for me. Usually if I'm in the middle of getting my drink, tipping the waitress and have no idea what is going on, I just check quickly so that I don't hold the game up.
You did nothing wrong. Check-raising is permissible and if you'd known for sure you could have squeezed in a check-raise you would have anyway. No biggie. I'd rather say check than hold the whole table up. |
#5
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Re: Ethical question
Safe. NH. |
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Re: Ethical question
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UTG+1 checks and MP checks before I turn my attention back to the table. LP is contemplating his action when a player not in the hand asks the dealer whether I checked. Dealer looks at me and I say...???? [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Ethical question
Once there is action behind there is nothing that can be done and you definitely shouldn't feel dirty
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Re: Ethical question
In my opinion, what you did was a bit unethical, since you lied. It could be considered a VERY mild angle shoot.
The thing is, since action took place after you, all you needed to say was "No, sorry, I was busy ordering a drink." then check. I think the bet and call from the other two players would stand - though I'd like someone else to confirm that that is the usual ruling. |
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Re: Ethical question
IMO by lying you created an angle, whereas if you had been honest, the result would have been the same.
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