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Old 09-19-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

The injury matters a lot with CJ.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

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David Wright.

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The MVP usually comes from a playoff team.

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Well, the Mets have not reached the playoffs just yet.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:07 AM
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If the Phillies make the playoffs:



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Old 09-19-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

Chipper Jones has 85% of the plate appearances David Wright has.

They're close.

It'll probably be Wright and it would be a good decision.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

A few weeks ago, I would have said Wright. But because the Mets are apparently going to stagger into the playoffs (if they make it at all), I'm changing my mind. One of the many players with better stats will get it, regardless of whether they are on a playoff team.

But if the Mets on a tear, I reserve my right to change my mind back to Wright.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

Its not Wright's fault his team is sucking. He isn't having his best month of the year, but his OPS is still >1 this month.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:48 AM
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Its not Wright's fault his team is sucking. He isn't having his best month of the year, but his OPS is still >1 this month.

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But the rationale for giving him the award over those with better numbers is that his team is making the playoffs. If they just barely manage to get in, I think that argument is weaker.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Chipper Jones - 2007 NL MVP

If your argument is that Chipper has better "numbers" than Wright this year than that is a very weak argument in itself.

Wright has 100 more PA's this year. That is incredibly valuable, not to mention Wright > Chipper defensively.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:01 AM
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If your argument is that Chipper has better "numbers" than Wright this year than that is a very weak argument in itself.

Wright has 100 more PA's this year. That is incredibly valuable, not to mention Wright > Chipper defensively.

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Actually, I wasn't advocating Chipper, specifically. I was under the impression that Utley, Ramirez and perhaps even Rollins had better numbers overall than Wright.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:20 AM
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I think the biggest (only?) argument for Utley is that his season is played at 2nd base. His VORP is probably the highest.

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highest of what? second basemen?
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