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Old 11-20-2007, 12:29 PM
StrictlyStrategy StrictlyStrategy is offline
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?

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he gets a chance to put his action in with a bigger edge on the river
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?

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he gets a chance to put his action in with a bigger edge on the river

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For the record I HATE not getting money in with the best hand because I'm scared of what might come on the river.

The river card may just as well kill your opponents hand (or scare him off a bet) as it would yours.

Get money in while ahead.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?

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he gets a chance to put his action in with a bigger edge on the river

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For the record I HATE not getting money in with the best hand because I'm scared of what might come on the river.

The river card may just as well kill your opponents hand (or scare him off a bet) as it would yours.

Get money in while ahead.

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if are going to get the same amount of action whether you wait for the turn or the river(which based on villain's distribution of likely holdings, you will), you'll most always be better off waiting for the river with a hand like bottom two.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?

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he gets a chance to put his action in with a bigger edge on the river

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For the record I HATE not getting money in with the best hand because I'm scared of what might come on the river.

The river card may just as well kill your opponents hand (or scare him off a bet) as it would yours.

Get money in while ahead.

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please explain how it is better to 3bet this turn when we are almost 100% certain that (a) this guy will never fold and (b) he will almost certainly bet the river.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?

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he gets a chance to put his action in with a bigger edge on the river

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For the record I HATE not getting money in with the best hand because I'm scared of what might come on the river.

The river card may just as well kill your opponents hand (or scare him off a bet) as it would yours.

Get money in while ahead.

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please explain how it is better to 3bet this turn when we are almost 100% certain that (a) this guy will never fold and (b) he will almost certainly bet the river.

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pbob,

if i a solid TAG 3 bet you on the turn would you fold AA or AK?

or maybe you wouldnt take a call flop raise turn line with those hands in the 1st place...
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:34 AM
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like, if you had AK here, and your read was the BB was TAG and straightforward, would you usually call down?

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I would try to find a place to raise a TAG here if I was the button. Seems that AK or AA is ahead WAY too often not to.

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i was wondering if you would call a turn 3 bet.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet/fold with bottom two on the turn

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call the turn raise and c/r a non counterfeit card.

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Can you elaborate why you think this is better?

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he gets a chance to put his action in with a bigger edge on the river

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For the record I HATE not getting money in with the best hand because I'm scared of what might come on the river.

The river card may just as well kill your opponents hand (or scare him off a bet) as it would yours.

Get money in while ahead.

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please explain how it is better to 3bet this turn when we are almost 100% certain that (a) this guy will never fold and (b) he will almost certainly bet the river.

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pbob,

if i a solid TAG 3 bet you on the turn would you fold AA or AK?

or maybe you wouldnt take a call flop raise turn line with those hands in the 1st place...

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i try not to get in these spots, and thus would likely have 3bet the flop.
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