QJs 200BB deep & I have the button

RivFader · #1 09-25-2007, 05:15 PM

Raising the flop makes his life very tough if he has AA or KK so I prefer it.

Jay Riall · #2 09-25-2007, 05:18 PM

Meh, I prefer playing for value with the pair of Qs so I just call the flop - no-one folds better there imo (at least not often). Call the turn, especially as you can still have the best hand sometimes.

blah-blah-blah · #3 09-25-2007, 05:30 PM

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Meh, I prefer playing for value with the pair of Qs so I just call the flop - no-one folds better there imo (at least not often). Call the turn, especially as you can still have the best hand sometimes.

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I think the flop call is pretty standard for reasons jay stated already. I'm pretty sure my hand is never best on the turn unless he has AKcc.

lgchop83 · #4 09-25-2007, 05:31 PM

As played I like a call, I think he pushes too often if you raise. Been playing online for a day so could be wrong?

Imrahil · #5 09-25-2007, 05:34 PM

Calling turn may not be bad because he could be 3betting light and the turn could have made him a FD and a SD of some sort. Folding the turn sounds crazy but it's not bad.

blah-blah-blah · #6 09-25-2007, 06:24 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
BB ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
Hero ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $26, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $39, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $95, Hero raises to $509.25

good?

keikiwai · #7 09-25-2007, 06:27 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
BB ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
Hero ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $26, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $39, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $95, Hero raises to $509.25

good?

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yuck

i think raising flop is ok, but i can see calling

raising turn once your equity has halved the turn semi-blanks (he's not gonna give you credit for 64) and the pot is getting big is pretty bad imo

blah-blah-blah · #8 09-25-2007, 06:33 PM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
BB ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
Hero ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $26, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $39, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $95, Hero raises to $509.25

good?

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yuck

i think raising flop is ok, but i can see calling

raising turn once your equity has halved the turn semi-blanks (he's not gonna give you credit for 64) and the pot is getting big is pretty bad imo

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ur stacking off w/ AA/KK here?

HoldEmNewby · #9 09-25-2007, 06:32 PM

if you were gonna push boss you'd be better off doing it on the flop. I'd just call the $95 as he could be double barreling and if he isn't we'll get the $241 left in his stack if we hit.

keikiwai · #10 09-25-2007, 06:29 PM

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Raising the flop makes his life very tough if he has AA or KK so I prefer it.

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raising flop makes life tough for AQ and KQs not AA and KK