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Old 10-25-2007, 03:02 PM
carol-ann carol-ann is offline
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Default Re: Value in turning my hand into a bruff...?

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Maybe villain calls with worse, maybe he folds better...

[/ QUOTE ]omg you be merging ranges
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:04 PM
markuisis markuisis is offline
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oh and one more thing your line is perfectly consistent with a K that was slowplaying flop but obv got scared by the flush. so a K here makes the most sense for you out of all hands, i think. It's almost always a K or baby flush and he won't put you on shoving a baby flush, so this should work a lot a lot a lot

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If u assume hero flats drawy flop with a k then i agree he prob plays turn like that but I think hero is and should be raising that flop with a king a much higher percentage of the time than just flatting it. I don't think its a terrible spot though because i'm not sure what he would put u on that would bet that river that he had beat but id still have trouble buying hero's line with a king or a ten.
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:31 AM
MJ of Poker MJ of Poker is offline
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P.S. Just to clarify, I think any bet is a bluff.. as I never get called by weaker..

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than check

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u mean "then check"? Plz, I mean come on, what is this? Who r u kidding? Stop living in lala land buster.
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: Value in turning my hand into a bruff...?

since no one is mentioning is there a possibility he has 88 and does the insta-rivercheck cause his house just got counter housed? and is he folding 88 to a bet ever?
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:02 AM
todd1007 todd1007 is offline
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Default Re: Value in turning my hand into a bruff...?

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ummm check behind obv. You're good here almost always.

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Old 10-28-2007, 10:05 AM
btmagnetw btmagnetw is offline
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Default Re: Value in turning my hand into a bruff...?

everyone who said[ QUOTE ]
ummm check behind obv. You're good here almost always.

[/ QUOTE ]can you give the hand ranges that you put the villain on? when i first read it, flush seemed pretty obvious but no one else seemed to think so.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:27 AM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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Default Re: Value in turning my hand into a bruff...?

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He has a T here 0% of the time.

He has a K here [insert really small number]% of the time.

He has a higher flush here [insert small number]% of the time. (...and probably can't call)

Albeit small, I think there's possibly some value in folding out higher flushes.. specially if villain never has a boat (which is obv up for debate..)

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the bottom line is that he probably does have a T here a certain %, his % of a king is probably higher than you think, he probably doesnt fold a flush as often as you'd like to a bet, and he also might be double barreling a lot (so betting can only bring pain--CR BABY)... I think you should not overthink this and just check it.
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