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Old 08-24-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 ($400)
Hero ($286.80)
CO ($214.60)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($80)</font>
SB ($424)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($910.60)</font>
UTG ($199.60)
UTG+1 ($379.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $9.

Flop: ($28) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $28</font>, Hero ?

Villain here seems to be very good.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

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Old 08-24-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

Call and jam a blank turn.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

Cool....let's find out why you two disagree.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

btw...is it against etiquette here to mention the villian's handle at FT?
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

I probably play Melon's line, but actually might like SABR's better. They're both very close +EV, and it may just boil down to style or feel.

You hafta felt if another club doesn't peel off since you're 75bb deep. Probably as 100bb as well, but definitely as 75bb.

After further thought...

i don't see different hands felting on either line. SABR's could induce more bluffs, but also makes us fold to bluffs when a fourth club hits.
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

Mentioning villian's name should be fine. Outing his 2p2 name might not be.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

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Cool....let's find out why you two disagree.

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I just have a more trappy/bluff-inducing style than GM. I think both lines are acceptable and very close in EV.
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

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I went this route. I made it $80, he shoved and I folded.

I started to think about how peeling could make more sense as I might fill up; however, I certainly wouldn't plan on jamming a blank turn.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: 400: Top 2 on Monoboard vs TAG IP

I've been thinking more about this hand. What type of range would we give him when he bets the flop like this? Given that range, what line helps him play better?
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