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Old 07-30-2007, 06:50 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default We don\'t really beat much, do we?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $157.45
BB: $27.50
UTG: $49.25
MP: $62.80
CO: $14.80
BTN: $24.05

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 13/10/8 over 60 hands.

Hero has been running 33/31/4.2.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($2) 7 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: ($2) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $2.00, CO folds

River: ($6) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $12.00</font>


What do we beat here?
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:54 AM
Wondercall Wondercall is offline
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

Goofy two pair hands, maybe even a set against your image. Looks to me like the nit is going after the lag but slowplayed himself into the ground. I would call here with your image, but I'm a bit of a spewtard.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

That's a really strange line from a villain with those stats. You could be ahead of something like 22-99. Those are about the only hands that make sense that you could be beating, although it would be an odd way for a TAG to be playing that hand. I think a heart SC is very likely tho. I'd probably call down.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:57 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

a thought: looking at villains AF, it doesn't look like he is the type to slow play any big hands he might have had on the flop, IMO.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

i guess your question is wether to push here or just call. i donīt think a push gets called by a range that you are ahead of so just flat call.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

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a thought: looking at villains AF, it doesn't look like he is the type to slow play any big hands he might have had on the flop, IMO.

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Do you guys have any history? Do you have any idea of his limping range?
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

Yeah just call.

There's plenty that you beat. Not a shove though for the obvious reasons.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:03 AM
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i guess your question is wether to push here or just call. i donīt think a push gets called by a range that you are ahead of so just flat call.

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no, my questions are what do we beat, and wether to call or fold

instead of the "zomg we have a FLUSH" thought process, you should probably try thinking some ranges instead.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:05 AM
Brian O'Nolan Brian O'Nolan is offline
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

Standard call, you see some sort of weird set or something often enough.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: We don\'t really beat much, do we?

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i guess your question is wether to push here or just call. i donīt think a push gets called by a range that you are ahead of so just flat call.

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no, my questions are what do we beat, and wether to call or fold


instead of the "zomg we have a FLUSH" thought process, you should probably try thinking some ranges instead.

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that was exactly what i was doing and villainīs reraising range on the river is prob way wider against you than against a normal player. you played like a freaking lagtard at that table and villain is very likely to have noticed it b/c looking at you stacksize you prob have been running over the table. So he could be raising 2 pair like hands or sets against you.
He might also very well slowplay against you b/c of your image.
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