maximise my expectation. 5k+4k hands

[major]

I lost both hands, but this is no result oriented b0llshit.

Hand 1 i just call the turn raise, maybe he has a flush draw. slowplayed AA QQ JJ 66.
Would you 3-bet here?
I lost to KK and and now i want to know if i should just call his river bet. I just dont know if my raise is +EV here. Will he lay down AA? AdKd?
So -EV raise here by myself?

Hand 2
He is loose passive but sometimes donky raises. open limp UTG AQs KJs etc.
I played my AK passiv preflop so its hard for him to put me on AK maybe KJ/KQ .
Would you raise on that draw board?
I feel very comfortable with my Ah.
Would you call flop OOP here or c/r?
He had 44



5k stacks

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $150</font>, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($325, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($325, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $250</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $750</font>, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1825, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1500</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $4522</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $2600</font>.
Uncalled bets: $422 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $10025


20/40 game he had 2.8k


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $160</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($500, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $280</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1060, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $600</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $4009</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $1714</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1695 returned to Hero.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($5688, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $5688)


Results:
Final pot: $5688 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[Apathy]

Hand 1: Wow, you really need to be just calling this river sometimes. You only have the third nuts, I mean what do you think he can call you with when you raise!!


Hand 2: good just call PF, a lot of players lately have been making the mistake of raising here with such a speculative hand. Strong check and value call on the flop but I would have followed the value call through on the turn.

[invid]

1) played it fine, just unlucky you ran into KK..i dont think AK will pay off our shove though..maybe KT?

2) raise the [censored] flop and lead out on the turn, you dont want that getting checked through

[rebuyboy]

lol

[mrTEA]

fold the flop

[major]

@2+3 thx for the quality posts.

@apathy what do you mean with SOMETIMES call.
When i think about this hand i want to call any river JQKA.
Any other card i want to push AI. Still wrong?

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

[ QUOTE ]
@2+3 thx for the quality posts.

@apathy what do you mean with SOMETIMES call.
When i think about this hand i want to call any river JQKA.
Any other card i want to push AI. Still wrong?

[/ QUOTE ]

apathy doesnt need to explain further

[aislephive]

Hand 1 I prefer minraising the river and folding to a shove.

Hand 2 I would have folded the turn, what is he betting that you beat?

You really have some things to learn, "major."

[major]

Hand 1

3-bet turn or call the raise?

[HERE_2_gamble_]

hey major,

I heard recallme has been saying your crap at poker, challenge him to a HU match.

Would make good traffic for 2+2, especially the beginners fourm.