Milton Bradley you are a complete Tool

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This whole thing is LOL no matter who's fault it is.

By the way, do any of you baseball nerds know what John Hirschbeck said to Roberto Alomar to get spit at? I heard it was a pretty terrible epithet or baiting comment of some sort but never heard what it actually was. I was guessing he called him "gay" and that Alomar loves pole but it's just a guess.

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yeah, rumor is he called him a [censored]
wow 2+2 censors it .. yes a 3 letter word for a gay

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Thanks, that's what I thought it was. Also, the way what I read was phrased implied that he was in fact gay, or there was a rumor going around to that effect (something about how the comment addressed Alomar's "lifestyle choice"), but I've never heard anything about that since.

Also, that three letter word is censored because Mason is very conservative and doesn't like people who smoke, or any mention of it, not because he has a problem with the gays.

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Remember the big rumor in the Post about how a prominent NY Mets star was gay and everyone thought it was Piazza? The rumor was about Alomar...

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That would explain Mary Pierce.

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Bradley is a crybaby and an [censored]. He had it coming.

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LOL. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

EDIT: Jack, thanks.

[mo42nyy]

the umps shouldnt be baiting people but bradley pulls this crap all the time and deserves what happened to him.

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the umps shouldnt be baiting people but bradley pulls this crap all the time and deserves what happened to him.

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yeah he pulls this crap all the time......



clearly he deserves to be called a [censored].

[THEOSU]

a few things are obvious from the clips i saw on sportscenter.

in the 5th, bradley strikes out and is not happy at the call. no footage is shown of the supposed bat flip, but he is peeling off his batting gloves with bat under arm.

in the 8th as bradley comes to bat, the homeplate umpire engages in conversation with bradley, apparently including information that 1st base up winters saw bradley flip his bat at home plate ump runge. bradley singles.

at 1st base, bradley and winters engage in a rather animated discussion. after a short period of time, bradley takes his lead as the pitcher looks in for the sign. it is clear from the clip that winters continues talking while bradley is taking his lead and the pitcher is looking in - while the ball is live. obviously he goes too far with a comment as bradley calls time and 1st base coach meacham immediately approaches winters. hilarity ensues.

now, it seems clear that winters is massively culpable. it also is clear that winters has directly affected MLB's playoff product, as either a weakened san diego team makes it or a (theoretically) lesser rockies or phillies team will make it.

it is also clear that the umpiring crew as a unit is culpable. they met in the half inning after the rockies came to bat, where apparently winters told runge of bradley's flip. it is worth noting that bruce froemming, general [censored], is the crew chief of this crew - someone bradley has had a confrontation with before.

now, if bradley did flip his bat at the umpire and winters saw it, should he not have ejected bradley there?

when bradley took his lead and the ball was live, winters had no reason at all to be talking, yet he was. and being quite profane.

now, i'm sympathetic to bradley here. as a cleveland fan, i experienced quite a lot with him. he is a hothead, he is emotional, he has trouble controlling his temper. but one thing he never has shown the propensity to be is a liar. i believe him, meacham and black a lot more than i do winters and froemming (whose quote was something like 'bradley is a hothead and winters told him to calm down, which bradley refused to do.')

if bradley's story turns otu to be true, which i'm sure it will, in any sort of normal workplace this is a terminable offense.

of course, with the umpires union, who knows.

the froemming crew is scheduled to work the padres last series of the season, a four game set with milwaukee.

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Uh, the ump allegedly used racial slurs, and multiple people have backed him up on this.

EDIT: Not that I think Milton Bradley is some peace keeper.

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Do you have a link for this? I heard he called Milton a piece of [censored], nothing racial.

And the home plate umpire wasn't aware that Milton flipped his bat at him, so he never had a chance to toss Milton during that inning. The other refs were incredulous he didn't toss Milton, and told him so. He asked Milton about it, Milton denied it, then Milton confronted the first base ump, apparently feeling the other umps should not have said anything. It escalated from there.

I used to love and defend Milton and told people his reputation was unwarranted, that he was a good guy who was just very competitive and had a few minor incidents blown out of proportion. Then after a few more incidents with the Dodgers he started beating and choking his pregnant wife, and then he pulled out the race card when Kent was clearly just being a jerk, not a neo-Nazi. Then he got 86d by Billy Beane (despite being the A's best outfielder,what does that tell you), threw a chair and pulled out the race card again. And now this.

Sorry Milton, I don't have the energy any more to defend you. The ump should have shut up, but I can't imagine what you've put those guys through during your career with your constant bitching and moaning and yelling and cold icy stares that say "I'm gonna kill you in a dark alley". Can you really blame them for having short fuses with you too?

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He asked Milton about it, Milton denied it, then Milton confronted the first base ump, apparently feeling the other umps should not have said anything. It escalated from there.


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This makes sense, when you think about it. Milton probably went to Winters and said something like "Dude, WTF is your problem, I didn't throw the bat at you.". Winters probably said, "You are lucky you got away w/ it; if you tried that crap on me, you would have been out, you POS.".

[manbearpig]

The first base coaches reaction HAS to be a huge part of this. It has been mentioned a couple of times but their is no way a coach reacts like that unless the comment was completely out of line.

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The first base coaches reaction HAS to be a huge part of this. It has been mentioned a couple of times but their is no way a coach reacts like that unless the comment was completely out of line.

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Not really, it's Milton Bradley. He knows Bradley is liable to go apesh!t over anything.

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Meachem was quoted in ESPN's coverage as saying something to the effect of 'In all my years, I've never heard an umpire bait a player with anything that profane.'