50nl FTP - Reraised pot, but he checks behind flop?

[Leviathan101]

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
UTG: $79.05
MP: $65.85
CO: $48.50
BTN: $79.05
Hero (SB): $51.95
BB: $20.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.75, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $4.50</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $2.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 8 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($9.5, 2 players)
Hero ...

Villian is unknown, which makes it harder, but what checks behind flop besides whiffed AK, AQ? Am I good here? Best line to take is...

[jonyy6788]

$3.50 to protect against overs is my standard

[Machavelli]

Pre-flop is very questionable. I recommend limping in this spot.

As played, tough spot. I think I shut down. His range is AA-TT, AK, maybe AQ? You're behind most of the time.

[Ikaika]

could you explain why you like $3.50 to protect against overs?

[Machavelli]

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$3.50 to protect against overs is my standard

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3.50 into a $9.50 is pretty weak. Any thinking player is going to see the weakness and raise. I think we either need to put out $6 or shut down. I vote for shut down. More so I think at 25nl raising and calling a 3bet pf w/ 33 is -EV.

[Leviathan101]

betting to protect against AK makessome sense to me. 2/3 pot makes the most sense. Does he ever call with AK? I think a 50nl average player might.
Any value to check/calling or check/raising? Maybe snap a bluff from AK? I think we can assume if he calls we are crushed. AK is a pretty big dog to us now, so should snapping a bluff be a bigger concern that them sucking out?

Why limping over raising? Only BB and MP in the pot, and we have no reason to assume BB has any strength. MP limped in. I think I take it down preflop enough to make it worth raising + the fact I gain momentum and build a bigger pot when I flop a set.

Machavelli, you realize he only raised 2.5 more? Had he raised to 6, I fold, but I stack him practically everytime I hit. He has 15 behind in what will be a $10 pot. What's he gonna do fold to a c/r for 6 more with 40 in the pot?

Also... is an average unknown at 50nl a thinking player?

[Machavelli]

The problem is your putting him specifically on AK which is at the weak end of his range. If we assume his range is AA-TT, AK and AQ then your behind 5 out of 7 hands.

I don't raise this PF because it puts us in spots like this. I'd rather limp in and take it from there. With a flop like that I'd probably put out a PSB and fold to any raise and shut down with a caller.

[jonyy6788]

I don't even consider this a 3-bet really. It's weaksauce is all it is. I didn't even see that hero raised 33 OOP. Limp PF is my std.

[Leviathan101]

Why would TT-AA check the flop? Sure his range when he raised is that wide... but now that he checked you still think AA is as likely as AK?

[Machavelli]

Not as likely but I think you'll often see people trying to get tricky. Its also definitely possible he's holding TT and thinks he should slow play his set.

I think you're putting yourself in a marginal situation at best and can find much better spots. JMHO.