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Old 11-13-2007, 07:22 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $16 - AJ after limper

I normally start open raising AJ with blinds 50/100, but I was not sure what to do with the limper.
I can't remember reads sorry.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) by Hand Converter CG

BB (t1380)
UTG (t2255)
Hero (t1565)
MP2 (t1580)
CO (t3025)
Button (t1345)
SB (t2350)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t100, Hero ??
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

No hud stats at level 4?
I almost always push this, pretty much nobody who open limps at this level knows the first thing about hand selection.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

PUSH man!! If AQ-AK or JJ+ happens to be out there, too bad, start up another one (oh, and by the way, you can still suckout on those hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. and once in awhile AQ will fold too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ).
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

The problem is 6 people left to act.
Is shoving 15 BB's into 6 people with AJs profitable?

The open limper was 33/6 (116) hands btw.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

super standard fold
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

Hmm... 33/6. If he's limping UTG at these high blinds he probably has something. It really comes down to your personal read, how strong or weak is he in this spot? Will he fold a medium pocket pair to your allin?.
I don't think this is a super standard fold, I think it's a fairly difficult decision based on what UTG's range is for limping, and what is his range for calling an allin.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:40 PM
eurythmech eurythmech is offline
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

Yeah, it should be profitable.
I admit I usually do this in later position than this, but it should be a good move.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

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Hmm... 33/6. If he's limping UTG at these high blinds he probably has something. It really comes down to your personal read, how strong or weak is he in this spot? Will he fold a medium pocket pair to your allin?.
I don't think this is a super standard fold, I think it's a fairly difficult decision based on what UTG's range is for limping, and what is his range for calling an allin.

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I do not have personal reads really.
However 33/6 probably means he limps a lot of hands he shouldn't, so I we're likely ahead of HIS range.
The problem is more the other 5 people left to act.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

I hate shoving here.

I would tend fold this because your are going to win a small pot or lose a huge one.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: $16 - AJ after limper

If this were like 11BB's the problem would be so much easier. I think it's really close and comes down to a read on villian and your instinct about what he's limping with and what he's calling with.
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