who does tOSU play in the title game?

[DVaut1]

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The other is the Big11Ten champion and hasn't played in like 2 months.

Moving up from #9 or whatever to #2 without playing a single game is ridiculous.

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OSU played 2 weeks ago, today. They were #5 after they beat Michigan. I [censored] hate OSU but OSU getting to the title game is not a good reason to criticize college football when there are other, much more glaring, ridiculous things to criticize college football about.

[rigged81]

There will never be a year in the current system that a undefeated big ten champ or in a cluster **** like this year wont wont make the NCG. Take that to thank bank

[Billy Bibbit]

Question: If Va. Tech had lost by 40 to a mediocre team like Florida State instead of a Top 5 team like LSU, would people be more likely to consider them for the MNC?

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Question: If Va. Tech had lost by 40 to a mediocre team like Florida State instead of a Top 5 team like LSU, would people be more likely to consider them for the MNC?

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I don't think so. A loss to an unranked/mediocre team is okay, but getting blown out would be terrible.

And I think you could apply this argument to OU after the Texas Tech game. So USC/LSU.

[DVaut1]

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Question: If Va. Tech had lost by 40 to a mediocre team like Florida State instead of a Top 5 team like LSU, would people be more likely to consider them for the MNC?

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The other important part of the "Va Tech lost by 40 argument" is that if Va Tech got sent to the national title game, they would be leapfrogging the team they lost by 40 to and has a similar resume. So had Va Tech lost to a mediocre team by 40, it would almost be better for them. The h2h matchup with LSU should make it pretty clear to voters which team is better. I realize they got it wrong last week and the current rankings reflect that. But now they get a second chance.

[Billy Bibbit]

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So had Va Tech lost to a mediocre team by 40, it would almost be better for them.

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And that's why the H2H argument is flawed. Losing to a mediocre team should never be > losing to a really good team. Other things being equal you'd put LSU above Va. Tech because of that game, but other things aren't equal. LSU lost at home to a crap team with everything on the line, and Va. Tech killed all the bad teams they played.

That being said I'd probably still put LSU slightly ahead of Va. Tech but I definitely think Va. Tech > Georgia, USC and Oklahoma.

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So had Va Tech lost to a mediocre team by 40, it would almost be better for them.

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And that's why the H2H argument is flawed. Losing to a mediocre team should never be > losing to a really good team. Other things being equal you'd put LSU above Va. Tech because of that game, but other things aren't equal. LSU lost at home to a crap team with everything on the line, and Va. Tech killed all the bad teams they played.

That being said I'd probably still put LSU slightly ahead of Va. Tech but I definitely think Va. Tech > Georgia, USC and Oklahoma.

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if it was somewhat close game sure

but a 41 point beating? come on, LSU>>>>>Va Tech

[SoloAJ]

WHY IS OKLAHOMA NOT IN THE TITLE GAME? THEY JUST BEAT THE #1 TEAM IN THE NATION. THAT MAKES THEM THE #1 TEAM IN THE NATION!!!!!!!!!

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[pirateboy]

Honestly, I'm sick and tired of focusing on "best win" or "worst loss." It's a [censored] 12-13 game schedule. Look at the whole [censored] thing.

[vhawk01]

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So had Va Tech lost to a mediocre team by 40, it would almost be better for them.

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And that's why the H2H argument is flawed. Losing to a mediocre team should never be > losing to a really good team. Other things being equal you'd put LSU above Va. Tech because of that game, but other things aren't equal. LSU lost at home to a crap team with everything on the line, and Va. Tech killed all the bad teams they played.

That being said I'd probably still put LSU slightly ahead of Va. Tech but I definitely think Va. Tech > Georgia, USC and Oklahoma.

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if it was somewhat close game sure

but a 41 point beating? come on, LSU>>>>>Va Tech

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Here is the reason this fails. If we were comparing two roughly equivalent teams, and one of those teams happened to beat the other one by 41 points, then its a no-brainer that they should get to go. But that isnt what we are doing. We are comparing Team A that managed to beat Team B by 41 and STILL isnt better than them, and Team B which managed to lose by 41 to Team A and STILL isnt worse than them. So the 41 point loss is already taken into consideration. If we ignored that loss, VaTech would be WAY ahead of LSU. It is that loss that makes them roughly equal.

So you have to find a new criterion.