fire last barrel?

[yourface]

villain is unknown

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) yourface is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, yourface calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, yourface checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">yourface bets</font>, CO calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)

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[Redeye]

I think it is a good spot for this, there are a number of K high hands that you might get a fold out of that currently beat you. Also, you cannot profitably check-call the river. His range may include smaller flush draws or stuff like 98, which will not be a large enough part of his range and also bluffing with often enough. But those hands, coupled with the ones that are ahead of you that will fold, should make this a good river bet.

I feel like if you are going to make this turn bet, you need to usually fire a 3rd shot on a river blank. Otherwise, you might as well take the free card since he likely is rarely bet-calling that flop, then folding the turn.

[Bill Haywood]

The turn, river are really unlikely to have hit him, and he would probably raise turn with trip T.

His turn call really suggests he's either on a draw, or calling down a Q (or pp) because you check-raised.

There are a lot of draws, so bet.

[BigBadBabar]

several draws didn't get there so i think the potential is definitely there. by the same token though if the other guy has a-high or a medium pp i think he's going to look you up putting you on a missed draw some of the time.

[sharpie]

Ya I would fire to get KJ or K9s to fold. The pot is also ~6.7BB.

[jstill]

yeah KJ Axdd AK maybe AJ all are worth it i think and well within most villains ranges in this spot

[yourface]

does anyone really fold an ace here? if I knew he'd fold an ace its a super easy bet.

[Nick C]

Yeah, I think you might as well fire again. I agree with BigBadBear, though, that you will sometimes get looked up by hands like AJ that you were hoping to fold out.

Edit: I mean, I would probably call with AJ.

[sharpie]

I don't expect ace high to fold, but you never know. Even if ace high never folds I'd still bet.

[wray]

These hands with a paired board with the other player(s) folding the flop and the last person standing chk-raises look awfully suspicious and tend to always get A-high calldowns.

I usually wait for a real hand to chk-raise on the flop here and probably give up the semi-bluff on the river if I did.