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Old 07-15-2007, 10:50 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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I agree, I layed down AK last week at the final table at Binions, and I even showed it (I wanted to give an image of being very tight as well), and you should of heard the gasps.


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I agree that it is totally situation dependent, but think OP's hand was very standard. I laid down AKo to a raise at a live final table yesterday. Everyone was fairly short stacked and playing the very live tight style. Most of the table was only playing phil style poker with 77+,AQ+. With no antes UTG open pushed all-in for ~7 BB (this was around the typical stack size). I had about 15-20 BB and AKo in UTG+1. I was abusing the table with raises and liked my stack size and didn't like getting involved for a significant number of chips with the whole rest of the table left to act. My fold was probably too weak tight, but that's my style. Of course 3 hands latter I pushed with 74s in the SB and got the BB to fold with only 2 BB left behind! I pushed in the CO and LP and got no callers. So my lay down was partially under the knowledge that I'd have later better opportunities as long as I kept my stack size what it was. In a tournament with better people left I'd have been forced to repop with my AKo hand.

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YOU

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AK

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7

MOTHER

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BB'S

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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This post gives me hope that poker will always be hugely profitable.

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Read the ME sweat thread, you'll feel even better.
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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I agree, I layed down AK last week at the final table at Binions, and I even showed it (I wanted to give an image of being very tight as well), and you should of heard the gasps.


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I agree that it is totally situation dependent, but think OP's hand was very standard. I laid down AKo to a raise at a live final table yesterday. Everyone was fairly short stacked and playing the very live tight style. Most of the table was only playing phil style poker with 77+,AQ+. With no antes UTG open pushed all-in for ~7 BB (this was around the typical stack size). I had about 15-20 BB and AKo in UTG+1. I was abusing the table with raises and liked my stack size and didn't like getting involved for a significant number of chips with the whole rest of the table left to act. My fold was probably too weak tight, but that's my style. Of course 3 hands latter I pushed with 74s in the SB and got the BB to fold with only 2 BB left behind! I pushed in the CO and LP and got no callers. So my lay down was partially under the knowledge that I'd have later better opportunities as long as I kept my stack size what it was. In a tournament with better people left I'd have been forced to repop with my AKo hand.

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YOU

FOLDED

AK

FOR

7

MOTHER

[censored]

BB'S

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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there are 11 hands that beat it. He is like a 9% favourite to win so stfu
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Old 07-15-2007, 10:54 PM
MNoller MNoller is offline
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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With no antes UTG open pushed all-in for ~7 BB (this was around the typical stack size).

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That was me. I had KQs. Thanks bunches.
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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Kneel, AQs. Big difference there.

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WP, sir.

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Old 07-15-2007, 11:52 PM
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I knew if I played it would be for all my chips, so I layed it down.

Good thing, because the UTG shocked that I layed it down (and showed it), turned over AA.

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lol donkaments
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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Kneel, AQs. Big difference there.

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well the dangerous this about AQs is that it can make a flush, you see
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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Kneel, AQs. Big difference there.

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well the dangerous this about AQs is that it can make a flush, you see

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But AQo can make 2 flushes, obviously better
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Old 07-15-2007, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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Kneel, AQs. Big difference there.

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well the dangerous this about AQs is that it can make a flush, you see

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But AQo can make 2 flushes, obviously better

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A8o is actually the #1 hand heads-up, since it can make two flushes and every straight
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:34 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: Players who cannot fold A-K preflop deep in the WSOP ME?

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Kneel, AQs. Big difference there.

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well the dangerous this about AQs is that it can make a flush, you see

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But AQo can make 2 flushes, obviously better

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A8o is actually the #1 hand heads-up, since it can make two flushes and every straight

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amazingly, even if this was serious, it would be the third worst poster in the thread
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