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Old 11-21-2007, 05:12 AM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

330$ tourney at Caesars Palace, final table 5 handed.
blinds are 2000/1000/200

There is one big stack and 4 others with more or less the same amount of chips.


folded to Hero in the SB 45,000 chips
BB has me covered.

Hero has K7s.

BB so far has played very solid poker preflop but made some tricky play post flop, he is good.

I took dow few pots lately rasing preflop, my image at this point is LAG while in reality I am fairly TAG.

What's the play here?
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

I think payout structure is important here. I'm positive pushing is +cEV but something else might be more.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

payout is very skewed to first place, 5th takes 750$ while first 6500$ and second 3800$.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

We are pretty deep here, too deep for pushing IMO, what wrong with a standard 2.5x raise with what is almost certainly best hand right now?
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:19 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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We are pretty deep here, too deep for pushing IMO, what wrong with a standard 2.5x raise with what is almost certainly best hand right now?

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Old 11-21-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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We are pretty deep here, too deep for pushing IMO, what wrong with a standard 2.5x raise with what is almost certainly best hand right now?

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We have 20BBs in a BVB situation. He has us covered and we're on a money bubble. Basically any good player will resteal with a sickeningly wide range here, and OP stated the BB's good. So what's your plan after raising to 2.5x? To bet/fold or bet/call? I hate bet/folding because he's so likely to resteal. I hate bet/calling, because our hand just doesn't do that well, even against a range ripe with resteals.

Open folding simply isn't an option because we could turn a profit shoving K7s even if we turn it face up before we push. Everything else seems to be worse, so I'd just jam.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

i probably just call
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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i probably just call

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Old 11-21-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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I hope Exit's actually good at poker because I generally agree with him.

Play to a pf raise? And if so, what do we do on flops that don't include two spades, a K or a 7?

If he doesn't raise, what lines do we take on flops that we miss?
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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What hands are you guys raising with here then? And are you raising with any hands that will fold to a 3-bet?

I'm just thinking that we are deep enough here that we should be able to raise/fold with some of our range because we can protect by including enough hands which kill his restealing range...

Am I talking rubbish here?
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