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Old 10-29-2007, 01:04 AM
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Default WPT Fallsview Difficult spot with TPTK

Villain is in his 40s probably he's pretty tight but seems to have some idea what he's doing. From what he has said to other players he seems to play live tournies fairly regularly.

Here are the hands he's played so far.

fyslexecduck raises to 150 in level 1 he 3bets to 600 she calls. Flop Qxx he bets 1k she folds he shows AA.

Terrible guy raises t300 he 3bets terrible guy calls. Flop is 8d8x3d he shoves for 2x pot and shows AA.

I raise AQ UTG t300 at 50/100 he calls utg+2. Tight asian girl calls behind. Flop is AdQdQx i bet 1k he calls. Turn is a blank i bet 2k. He raises t5k I think for a minute and shove for 10k more he folds AK face up.

He raises t600 at 100/200 ActionJeff 3bets t2200i he calls. FLop is Kxx ActionJeff cbets 4k he raises 5k more action Jeff thinks and shoves the guy folds pretty fast.

I can't think of anyother intersting pots he played really.

On to the hand.

Bad loose passive live player limps utg he makes it 800 over the limper UTG+1 other bad loose live player calls. I call 600 more in the bb with AdQd.

Flop is QhTh3s

I check he bets 2500 other guy folds I call.

Turn is the 8s

I check he shoves for 7-8k more.

Hero?

I've asked a bunch of people about this hand and recieved numerous differnt responses so I'm curious what people think.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:02 AM
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How tight is the asian girl?
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:04 AM
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You know what i think.
Bet the flop. It is really drawy and if it gets checked through a lot of turns suck.
Fold the turn his preflop raising range is really tight. I guess he can have like AKhh or the other AQ, but probably nothing else.
Edit: Also with AQ I call turn shove river.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:07 AM
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It's a fold. He doesn't expect u to fold a queen here, and he probably checks behind w/AK.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:25 AM
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He raises t600 at 100/200 ActionJeff 3bets t2200i he calls. FLop is Kxx ActionJeff cbets 4k he raises 5k more action Jeff thinks and shoves the guy folds pretty fast.

He has TT/99.


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Blinds 100/200
Bad loose passive live player limps utg he makes it 800 over the limper UTG+1 other bad loose live player calls. I call 600 more in the bb with AdQd.

3 players, pot 2700

Flop is QhTh3s

I check he bets 2500 other guy folds I call.

2 players, Pot 7700

Turn is the 8s

I check he shoves for 7-8k more.

Hero?



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How much did you have behind when in the hand?

Generally, you should bet the flop. A better hand would raise the flop as the tight guy wouldn't raise on a draw here. Since you show no strength and didn't bet the flop, there is a chance he's doing that with KQ... that's why betting the flop is better. Now his ranges are over pair,AQ,KQ,TT.

As played, fold the turn. I think he has TT/AA when he shoves the turn.
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:28 AM
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It's a fold. He doesn't expect u to fold a queen here, and he probably checks behind w/AK.

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He didn't put you on AQ here.

Generally, live players would ask themself "Why this guy didn't bet the flop if he has a Queen?" So, there is a chance he's shoving with a worse hand here because he put us on flush draw.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:48 AM
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From what you've described, he's not double barreling here with AK after you called 2500. In fact, I'd be surprised if he bet the flop with AK, unless it's AKhh. This is either the same hand, or KK+. I guess AKhh is possible as well, but seems a bit aggro for this guy. Fold.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:31 PM
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what's the result of this hand?
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:59 PM
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I call, he seems to make raises with made but mediocre and vulnerable hands, I think he's betting any Q here and maybe AT, there's lots of draws ect. Unless you think he's really tight from UTG+1 with a limper in, but you only really saw that he's likely tight with RRs so I'd get it in.
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