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Old 11-21-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

Stacks are such that he can conceivably three-bet/fold if we make it 5k and so I really wouldn't want to raise fold anything relatively strong here and I think raise-calling OOP is madness.

As it's live and the guy will have had position on me for some time, I think more or less any line could be OK, depending on our BvB history and my image (particularly whether he has reason to think that I'm worried about the bubble)
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:25 AM
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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

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I like a complete, but I would probably open overbet push Ax, as it is cEV+ with Ax and villain is the chip leader. With Ax, you could also raise call if villain is aggressive.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

this is just an awkward stack size

too big to jam

making 2.5-3 times just opens you up for him to come over the top

i just flat this and play aggressive on the flop -
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

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I like a complete, but I would probably open overbet push Ax, as it is cEV+ with Ax and villain is the chip leader. With Ax, you could also raise call if villain is aggressive.

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cEV+ may not neccesarily equal $EV+ in this situation though given that we are on a pay bubble. I'm no expert on such matters though and we would need all stacks and the details of each paying position to properly work it out.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

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i just flat this and play aggressive on the flop -

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What's yer line if he preflop raises then - complete/fold?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

We're ITM and the structure is really steep is what we know. 5th is $750, 2ns $3800, 1st is $6500.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:42 PM
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Yeah, calling seems good. I'd call a lot of Ax hands here also.

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I like a complete, but I would probably open overbet push Ax, as it is cEV+ with Ax and villain is the chip leader. With Ax, you could also raise call if villain is aggressive.

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cEV+ may not neccesarily equal $EV+ in this situation though given that we are on a pay bubble. I'm no expert on such matters though and we would need all stacks and the details of each paying position to properly work it out.

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You are right. With final table payouts, there is more reason to limp and maybe keep the pot small.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: 330$ live - final table K7s vs chip leader

i really dont think people resteal live in BvB situations as much as we would like to think. Live players are bad and passive for the most part. I probably make it 3bb and play from there.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:19 PM
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Live players are bad and passive for the most part, especially for a tight, solid villain. I probably make it 3bb and play from there.

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