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Old 11-03-2007, 04:17 PM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

10th hand of the tourney, starting stacks 8000, I have about 9300, UTG has about 8000. I recognize UTG from prior tourney as young, super aggro player. 25/50. UTG limps, I make it 250 with QQ from UTG+3. CO and button, both middle-aged guys, call. I know button, he's a solid live pro. UTG makes it 1050. I call quickly. CO and button both fold. I'm fairly certain button would not fold a pair here, he must have had a big A, I say to myself. CO, I have no idea.

Flop: 6 6 4, 2 clubs. UTG bets 1200, I call.

Turn: I think was a 3, it was below a six, was not a club, did not pair the board. UTG bets 2500. What to do?
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

UTG is close to pot committed no ? Pot will be 10075 and he's only got 3250 left, and you'll have 4550 if you call.

I can't believe he'd pot commit himself on a total bluff. Perhaps he has AcKc ? Only other hands that make sense are 44 66 JJ+. 66 QQ unlikely, and AA KK seems like he'd shove pre-flop. Narrowing it down to AcKc 44 JJ. You're only afraid of one of those, so shove ... ?

Would a super aggro 4bet a Sammy hand here ? A4, A6, 64, 7c5c 5c3c, 6X ? I could see him calling with those, not 4betting.

The less than half-pot flop bet worries me.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

Why would he shove preflop? He made an extremely small raise, pretty sure he has AA/KK most times here. I'd just fold the flop.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:12 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

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Would a super aggro 4bet a Sammy hand here ? A4, A6, 64, 7c5c 5c3c, 6X ? I could see him calling with those, not 4betting.

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about no one ever limp-reraise with a hand like that 10th hand of a live tournament.

I agree with gobbo that flop is a fold and wouldnt really mind a pf fold even though calling is perfectly ok. fold turn as played.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

im in the camp that this is almost always AA KK. That said, calling the flop is more or less calling for a set or to see if they shut down. so why cant we spite fold pre and laugh at the limp reraising donkey.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

Fold on the flop.

BTW, How many players in today's 2K event? Any estimate for tomorrow's 3K?
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:41 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

Pf, standard.
Fold flop
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: Foxwoods 2K: QQ vs. UTG limp/reraise

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so why cant we spite fold pre and laugh at the limp reraising donkey.

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because of things like 'button, a solid live pro, never folds a pair here' (lol?) meaning the pot's gonna be 3-4 way a lot, and if UTG has AK or some crap he is not gonna fire overs 4 handed.

we can spite fold the flop though.
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