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Old 10-31-2007, 05:17 PM
baltostar baltostar is offline
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Default Re: WPT Five Diamond - Trips w/ A Kicker, Monochrome Flop vs. Shaniac

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I could be checking my cards as a reverse-tell, too, right?

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I have become convinced that more often than not this is what Farha is doing.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:20 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Re: WPT Five Diamond - Trips w/ A Kicker, Monochrome Flop vs. Shaniac

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I could be checking my cards as a reverse-tell, too, right?

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I'm high, what do you exactly mean "reverse-tell"? I mean I check for a lot of reasons, if you want to call some of those reasons a "reverse-tell" then go ahead...
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: WPT Five Diamond - Trips w/ A Kicker, Monochrome Flop vs. Shaniac

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I could be checking my cards as a reverse-tell, too, right?

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I'm high, what do you exactly mean "reverse-tell"? I mean I check for a lot of reasons, if you want to call some of those reasons a "reverse-tell" then go ahead...

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If checking my hole cards made Todd think I was looking for a diamond, then I might check in an effort to psych him out when I have two diamonds or a set.
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: WPT Five Diamond - Trips w/ A Kicker, Monochrome Flop vs. Shaniac

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I could be checking my cards as a reverse-tell, too, right?

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Of course. Against a Pro like shane, you got be very careful.

However, you can't do everything smoothly in planned "reverse-tell". Also, there is a difference when the player looks at other players' action first then looks at his card vs he looks at his card first before looks at others...

In this hand, did you look at your cards right after the flop was dealt? Or you realized Todd was looking at you then you look at your cards to show Todd...

We can't go too deep in discussion here because a lot is impossible to write down.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:12 PM
IWEARGOGGLES IWEARGOGGLES is offline
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I fold on the river always and never ever c/r the turn.

EXPLOIT ME, BITCHES!
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:19 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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Default Re: WPT Five Diamond - Trips w/ A Kicker, Monochrome Flop vs. Shaniac

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I could be checking my cards as a reverse-tell, too, right?

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I'm high, what do you exactly mean "reverse-tell"? I mean I check for a lot of reasons, if you want to call some of those reasons a "reverse-tell" then go ahead...

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If checking my hole cards made Todd think I was looking for a diamond, then I might check in an effort to psych him out when I have two diamonds or a set.

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Like I said, I was really high, I forgot you looked at your cards HAH but yeah I do that sometimes live just to [censored] with ppl if they're paying attention.
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Old 10-31-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: WPT Five Diamond - Trips w/ A Kicker, Monochrome Flop vs. Shaniac

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I fold on the river always and never ever c/r the turn.

EXPLOIT ME, BITCHES!

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HU?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:36 PM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Well, I ruled out a reverse tell because it was before the action got to Shane, and therefore I couldn't imagine him throwing off a reverse tell at a time when no one was likely to be looking. And he hadn't done it before. So while I would attribute no significance to it for habitual or frequent card checkers, I was fairly sure it was significant.

Setting that aside, I thought he'd shove the turn with a boat or a flush. The only hand that seemed to fit was a 9 with a big heart. So I called the river bet, and it turned out his card check was a spontaneous "OMG, did I really flop the nuts?" rather than a check to see what he had or a reverse tell -- A5hh.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:37 AM
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it wasn't a reverse tell. he checked his cards to make sure he really had what he thought so he didn't do something moronic. i do this every single hand. seriously that's what i'm talking about. making a dumb turn c/r that doesn't make any sense for any reason involving a live tell is moronic. that is it. c/c turn and prob c/f riv unimproved, depending on the size of the bet.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:45 AM
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I know we have TPTK on the flop and thats great and all, but Shane is firing into a bunch of players on a coordinated board, we're fairly deep, OOP, and with no redraw.

I basically just want to fold flop. Anyone else think so to?

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i totally agree with this assesment
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