Question about table selection (more specifically pokerstars 10/20 6m)

[vmacosta]

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The trick is to look out for big time fish, not avoid regulars. The problem is that fish are hard to spot so often you just look for a bunch of unknowns and sit with them.

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So would you sit at a table with 3 average regulars and 2 unknowns? Or 3 good regulars and 1 well known, huge fish?

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Well of course it depends on what you mean by average, good, and huge. But by most definitions I'd pick the second one. For one, you can leave the game when the fish does and if the regulars are very good then the game can only get better.

If you are exceptionally good like juuuicccce then it might not matter.

[freshjuuuiice]

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So Juice, who do you believe are the next best regulars after you? Are there any regulars you think are pretty poor?

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hmm. decent regulars? I would have to say Nanonoko was probably one of the best 10-20 regulars. Sambowie was alright, although he hasnt been playing in a while, from what I can tell. some of the worst regulars? Boc4life, vinnybstgk, recently, reshef. and IMO the most hyped regular that gets the "meh, so so" award goes to Heisenb3rg

[millerlolife]

Heisenberg is terrible, heres an example:

POKERSTARS GAME #11915278301: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/09/07 - 00:01:20 (ET)
Table 'Ialmenus' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Heisenb3rg ($424 in chips)
Seat 2: JLlama ($881 in chips)
Seat 3: HUGEMC ($646 in chips)
Seat 5: millerlolife ($834 in chips)
millerlolife: posts small blind $5
Heisenb3rg: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to millerlolife [Td Ad]
JLlama: folds
HUGEMC: folds
millerlolife: raises $10 to $20
Heisenb3rg: raises $10 to $30
millerlolife: raises $10 to $40
Betting is capped
Heisenb3rg: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [4s 2c Qd]
millerlolife: bets $10
Heisenb3rg: calls $10
*** TURN *** [4s 2c Qd] [2s]
millerlolife: bets $20
Heisenb3rg: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [4s 2c Qd 2s] [As]
millerlolife: bets $20
Heisenb3rg: raises $20 to $40
millerlolife: calls $20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Heisenb3rg: shows [8d 9d] (a pair of Deuces)
millerlolife: shows [Td Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
millerlolife collected $218 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $220 | Rake $2
Board [4s 2c Qd 2s As]
Seat 1: Heisenb3rg (big blind) showed [8d 9d] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 2: JLlama folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HUGEMC (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: millerlolife (small blind) showed [Td Ad] and won ($218) with two pair, Aces and Deuces

[vmacosta]

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Heisenberg is terrible, heres an example:

POKERSTARS GAME #11915278301: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/09/07 - 00:01:20 (ET)
Table 'Ialmenus' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Heisenb3rg ($424 in chips)
Seat 2: JLlama ($881 in chips)
Seat 3: HUGEMC ($646 in chips)
Seat 5: millerlolife ($834 in chips)
millerlolife: posts small blind $5
Heisenb3rg: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to millerlolife [Td Ad]
JLlama: folds
HUGEMC: folds
millerlolife: raises $10 to $20
Heisenb3rg: raises $10 to $30
millerlolife: raises $10 to $40
Betting is capped
Heisenb3rg: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [4s 2c Qd]
millerlolife: bets $10
Heisenb3rg: calls $10
*** TURN *** [4s 2c Qd] [2s]
millerlolife: bets $20
Heisenb3rg: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [4s 2c Qd 2s] [As]
millerlolife: bets $20
Heisenb3rg: raises $20 to $40
millerlolife: calls $20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Heisenb3rg: shows [8d 9d] (a pair of Deuces)
millerlolife: shows [Td Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
millerlolife collected $218 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $220 | Rake $2
Board [4s 2c Qd 2s As]
Seat 1: Heisenb3rg (big blind) showed [8d 9d] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 2: JLlama folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HUGEMC (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: millerlolife (small blind) showed [Td Ad] and won ($218) with two pair, Aces and Deuces

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lol, that looks like a vmacosta-on-tilt hand. heisenberg plays fine and he's added a helluva lot more to these forums then you guys have. pls take this garbage somewhere else.

[Heisenb3rg]

lol at judging a player by his spew hands while hes on tilt...
I go on reads and table feel a lot, so I have a lot of hands that make me look like a horrible spewmonkey, and others that make me look like a genious. When im on tilt, my intution is disttorted plus I make random anger plays, so I have some pretty disgusting hands to my name..

FWIW I think this isnt really super terrible.. Id like to see you handle that card with 77-KK.. Or if a low spade fell and you had A hi. If u always call, TY the other 99/100 times Im not trying a float play on tilt...

Want to know what was happening at another table while I was playing that hand miller? (also at the end of a 4 day long downswing)


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And juice, I have 300 hands of you in my DB and havent played a game with you since the first two weeks I moved up to 10/20.. so WTF?
I have a tendency to not get along with arrogant aholes, perhaps this is the reason for the playa hatin?

I respect your play, but your credibility is seriously lost by calling nanonoko one of the best @ 10/20..I think hes def a decent player but has some pretty exploitable patterns.. He's PMed me on numerous occasions asking for advice on why hes losing at 10/20 over a very large # of hands. Something I dont think one of the best players @ 10/20 would be doing..

[freshjuuuiice]

i never said u sucked. i just said you were "meh". Also, I saw nanonoko doing a lot of right stuff for the wrong reasons, beacuse of that, he was somewhat hard to play against

[Heisenb3rg]

I never said you said I sucked :P

Just surprised how you could make a judgement about my play in so little hands. FWIW I prolly I am "meh" [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].
Plus my irritation towards miller, and the "I am the greatest x1000" came out...

Last time I sat with miller he was berating me for no reason at all, about 15 minutes straight. I said like 2 sentences to the effect of..

"why are you obsessed with me? Plz stop talking"
"do you not have friends? stop talking to me"

[millerlolife]

lol

[kiddo]

The guy plays 10/20 regular and think he is a great pokerplayer. Im sure he got a good reason to not make real money at higher limits [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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OP, u shouldnt listen to what the big egos says in this thread. Rake is huge at $10/20 and since its a pretty low limit u need a big edge to really make $. U will not make any substantial moey out of 90% of the regulars.

I dont sit down at a table with only regulars and 1 fish. Its just to tricky to play if u multitable and ur edge is smaller then u think (only 1/5 of the fishmoney)

I think u need at least 2 unknowns at a table. Sit down, and leave if u see that one of the unknowns knows how to play (after 50 hands he is 32/19, AF 2.5... thats enough, dont play him... u dont need to play 353 hands and try to understand his weaknesses, just leave and avoid).

[freshjuuuiice]

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juice what's your avatar i'm at work and have no DB in front of me. not looking to trash talk just curious.

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Black dude looking menacing