when do you give up here?

duckman · #1 12-08-2006, 04:01 AM

Villain is 48/13

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?
Preflop 3 bet baad?

milesdyson · #2 12-08-2006, 04:07 AM

stars 5/10 is 2/5 structure right? 13% pfr is not high. i would fold this hand. i have tightened up recently.

i'd bet the turn again and give up if he calls.

duckman · #3 12-08-2006, 04:15 AM

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i have tightened up recently.

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That's what I need to do

nickg1532 · #4 12-08-2006, 04:31 AM

yeah, i fold here pf too (but unlike you guys i'm probably too tight). given the way you played it, i guess you might as well take one more stab at it as the last $ that goes in UI

Scotty. · #5 12-08-2006, 04:43 AM

I would have folded preflop as well.

I am check-folding here on the turn. LP villains like this will be calling down their A high on non-threatening boards, and of course any Q or PP as well. You are beaten here almost always anyways. A better hand essentially never folds, a worse hand rarely calls and will rarely bluff at you either.

Check and hope maybe he checks behind giving you a shot at some outs.

Burnsabre · #6 12-08-2006, 08:17 AM

Fold preflop.
I definitely give it another shot.. you already threw alot of money at this pot and alot of UI aces are giving up here.