TT faces 10x reraise. WTF to do here?

[Wish]

Poker Stars
4/180 No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1655
UTG+1: t1190
MP1: t1535
MP2: t2060
Hero: t2495
CO: t3315
Button: t2170
SB: t1345
BB: t3115

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t120</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to t1200</font>, MP2 folds,

Action is on me. Completely baffled by villain's line here. Had only been at the table for 2 orbits or so, and villain had shown down two hands, both AQo (one of which was after a pre-flop 60BB reraise shove).

[pokerfreak_21]

even if you have the best hand(which you prolly do) i dont like risking my whole stack this early. I fold here

[Dave D]

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i dont like risking my whole stack this early. I fold here

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No. Bad reason.

My move here depends somewhat on site/buy in. These wierdo overbets seem to almost always be QQ+. He's trying to make you think he's an idiot etc etc. I think I'd still call here especially the lower the buy in, but a fold is probably ok just because of the read I gave you.

I think pretty much in a 4/180 this is a call though. Paging [censored] I guess.

[JammyDodga]

Huge re-raise are often mind pairs in these kind of tourneys, I think youa re ahead of his range and he will call alot. I wouldn't be suprised to see JJ, but I think thats the only hand youa re worried about.

Also, saying you probably have the best hand but fold is just plain dumb...

[WMetcalf]

As played, I think it's a fold since you're dominated some and you dominate rarely. However, can we talk about the raise size? Doesn't raising more reduce villan's range for shoving over and also make limper's call of our raise (absent the shove) less correct? I guess, I'm asking what the purpose of the 120 raise is since it prices the limper into the pot and encourages CO and Button to come along?

[Popped Rod]

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However, can we talk about the raise size? Doesn't raising more reduce villan's range for shoving over and also make limper's call of our raise (absent the shove) less correct? I guess, I'm asking what the purpose of the 120 raise is since it prices the limper into the pot and encourages CO and Button to come along?

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Hero made a standard raise: 3+n x bb (x = number of limpers). Eg. - If you're first in the pot (and blinds are t30), raise is t90. If there is 1 limper, raise is t90 + t30 = t120.

At this level, we make raises proportional to the blinds to balance different aspects of the game such as bettting consistentcy so we do not provide reads on our play, controlling pot size, distorting odds for weaker hands, etc.

I'm not sure what you mean by "encouraging CO and Button to come along"? How would they know whether the original limper would call the bet and give them implied odds. They folded the hand in question. (A better argument would be that if CO and button smoothcalled, then MP2 would be have great pot odds to call.)

And if the limper has an inferior hand, why wouldn't we want him to call our raise? We have position, a solid pp, and we know how to play poker. Bring it on!

[Wish]

120 is a pretty standard raise there. 3x BB + 1x BB per limper. I'm not worried about pricing in the limper. He's exhibited no strength, and at 4/180, the limpers almost always come along, unless you massively overbet. And I'm not looking to bluff at this thing with TT and pick up a whopping t75 pot. I'm trying to build a pot with one or two callers and a strong hand, so why would I make a big overbet and scare off anything that doesn't have me crushed or flipping?

[levAA]

I'd shove - the move is really weird, but I think your biggest concern here is JJ.

Still I think you will mostly be up against AQ, AK, mid-pairs or even worse hands.

[OrrLives]

Super easy fold without read.

[elcastigador]

Sometimes early on I even limp w/ 1010 here, but some may think that's too nitty. No reads? Fold.