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Old 11-10-2007, 06:19 AM
nextgenneo nextgenneo is offline
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Default Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

Main Vil is D_liciousUTB. I have him at 24/19/3 over a large sample and he folds his big blind 72% of the time. I have no direct history with him.

SB is a 50/8 party fish.

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $520
UTG: $442.30
MP: $577.40
CO: $551.34
Hero (BTN): $400
SB: $143.08

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls $12, <font color="red">BB raises to $65</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $172</font>, SB folds, BB calls $107

<font color="blue">Obviously I don't 4bet here every time but once in a while vs these kinds of opponents I will 4bet and stack pre. Its a great spot pre for him to squeeze. His call though was WTF</font>

Flop: ($358) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero has $228 left

<font color="blue">Ummmmmm.... what can he have, he'd surely shove AK pre as most other hands. Was really lost at this point. Whats the plan if we check behind, or is this a good spot to shove?</font>
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:26 AM
jambon jambon is offline
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Default Re: Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

i have no idea wtf is going on, id put him on aces and give up, but shove cant be too bad, if hes just calling QQ/JJ pre hes prob folding this flop. him calling a $172 4bet when $400 deep is pretty retarded with all hands imo
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

That is plane awful.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

I might just shove flop as a two-way bet, it looks like a really badly played AQ or QQ to me. I'm very confused though
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

check behind and try and hit
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

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check behind and try and hit

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What's your plan for the turn if you miss? Obv fold to shove but do we shove if checked to?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: Very strange 4-bet spot w/ 99 vs D_liciousUTB

Hes not folding.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:02 AM
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i have no idea wtf is going on, id put him on aces and give up, but shove cant be too bad, if hes just calling QQ/JJ pre hes prob folding this flop. him calling a $172 4bet when $400 deep is pretty retarded with all hands imo

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it's pretty damn retarded with aces, cos nextgen is never folding ATC, but i can't imagine this guy doing it with QQ/JJ either...weird line, be interesting to see what he had, one thing is for sure AQ is never in his range. i check turn again.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:04 AM
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fwiw i have this guy a lot nittier than 24/19, over 2k hands
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:40 PM
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fwiw i have this guy a lot nittier than 24/19, over 2k hands

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what have you got him at?
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