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Old 09-24-2007, 10:06 AM
giles giles is offline
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Default River Leak

No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $222.60
BB: $659.55
UTG: $383.60
MP: $83.05
CO: $200.00
BTN: $250.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB calls $10.00

Turn: ($32) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($32) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $24.00</font>, Hero?


I figure if he's on a flush draw and missed he makes a bet like this, and I call. Once the second Ace comes out there I feel I am more prone to call it. Is this a leak?
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: River Leak

Well the board paired which means he didn't hit some random out, if he was on a draw. The fact that it's an A doesn't really matter. So it's just math now, based on your read for draw vs. made hand.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: River Leak

You played it fine, now fold. He might be floating you here, but I would accept that and fold. Wait for better spots.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:16 AM
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Default Re: River Leak

I call/fold depending on reads. You need to be good 30% of the time for a call to be correct.

A normal donkish villain will probably bet this with a missed flush almost always. A very good villain might value bet with a better 6 or pp. And most players will value bet with the Ace. I'd actually like this spot more if the turn was some other card than the ace, because then the likelihood of him valuebetting a weak Ace go down.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: River Leak

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Old 09-24-2007, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: River Leak

if you feel that he was on a flush draw call, like wolfram said you only have to be right 30% of the time. The second ace on the river doesnt change anything inless he has a weak ace.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: River Leak

i like your thought process... but where are you reads???
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:26 AM
rakes.a.beach rakes.a.beach is offline
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Default Re: River Leak

i'd call here too.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: River Leak

I think a call will lose a majority of the time here. You raised PF and theres an A on the flop. He could easily have called pf with a weaker ace, lots of times you'll find you c-bet get a caller then have to check and fold because they hit... just not with a strong enough kicker or hand to raise. I'd say most of the time hes got an A with &lt; T kicker and wasnt willing to bet it like he now is with there being only 1 case ace out and you checking the turn.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:33 PM
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Hmmmm...without reads I nearly always call this. With reads I probably nearly always call this.
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