Showing One Card (after everyone has folded)

[Twistofsin]

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Of course asking to see the hand is a breach of ettiquette.

Despite what you say calling a bet is not payting to see a hand, its paying to have the chance to win the pot. If calling a bet was paying to see a hand, then only the player who paid should get to see it.


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Uh, no. If my opponent bets and I CALL, then he sits there like a tard until I prompt him to show his hand he is the one violating poker etiquette.

[bravos1]

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Of course asking to see the hand is a breach of ettiquette.

Despite what you say calling a bet is not payting to see a hand, its paying to have the chance to win the pot. If calling a bet was paying to see a hand, then only the player who paid should get to see it.


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Uh, no. If my opponent bets and I CALL, then he sits there like a tard until I prompt him to show his hand he is the one violating poker etiquette.

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it's the dealers job to ask for him to show his hand, not yours. I usually just flip my hand after a few seconds if they do not flip theirs as I just want to get the game rolling again. At this point you already know his hand is pretty weak or a pure bluff and I don't think that the extra "info" is usually all that helpful. The people that typically do this are horrible players anyhow.. so I want to speed the game up so I can get more money from them!

[psandman]

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Of course asking to see the hand is a breach of ettiquette.

Despite what you say calling a bet is not payting to see a hand, its paying to have the chance to win the pot. If calling a bet was paying to see a hand, then only the player who paid should get to see it.


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Uh, no. If my opponent bets and I CALL, then he sits there like a tard until I prompt him to show his hand he is the one violating poker etiquette.

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If you followed the thread you would see we were talking about the situation where you don't have a hand anymore.

[mntndrew]

Right, we may talking a little past each other. I wasn't really clear initially, but I was referring to both situations -- first, the bettor shows one card and the caller mucks, and two, the bettor shows one card and.... pregnant pause. Situation 1, fine, keep the game moving; however, because the other cards often need to be shown, shouldn't it be the default to show both cards in the first place at an actual showdown so that situation 2 doesn't always have to pop up?

I'd argue that the bettor should just table a full hand at showdown in order to keep the game moving rather than waiting to be asked to table both (or all four) cards if the one isn't enough. I also agree that this should be the dealer's responsibility and not the other players'.

There's a player in my home game that always only shows as few cards as he thinks might be needed until prompted, and I hate constantly being the one calling for a full hand to be tabled and wonder if I'm out of line.

[psandman]

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I'd argue that the bettor should just table a full hand at showdown in order to keep the game moving rather than waiting to be asked to table both (or all four) cards if the one isn't enough.

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I don't disagree with this. Though as a rule if I think i have the winner i show regardless of whether i was the bettor or caller.

[fartman77]

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At Bay 101, if you show one, u don't have to show the other even if requested if you are NOT called.

I know I will probably be lambasted for saying this, but I personally think showing one card is pretty egotistical and rude. You are taunting someone "I bluffed you haha!" or have some other motivation. If you aren't called, drag your pot, and move onto the next hand.

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I'm sorry but any poker player who is pro anti-taunt should be escorted to the children's table. Really. It is a psychological game and if you don't want your feelings hurt poker isn't the game for you.

[Jimbo]

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Though as a rule if I think i have the winner i show regardless of whether i was the bettor or caller.


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As do I, at the levels I play 1/2, 2/5 and 5/10 all N/L holdem it behooves me to speed the game up more than worrying about any miniscule amount of additional info I might give away.

Jimbo

[HeroInBlack]

Alright, so what is the ruling if in the process of sliding your cards to the dealer from seat 3, one gets some air and flips up. Does the dealer have to flip up the other one now? (Assuming we're in a place with the show one show both rule, obv.)

[psandman]

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Alright, so what is the ruling if in the process of sliding your cards to the dealer from seat 3, one gets some air and flips up. Does the dealer have to flip up the other one now? (Assuming we're in a place with the show one show both rule, obv.)

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Remember that show one show both, like show one show all is only on player request.

[jeffnc]

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At a home game, I raised some girl off of her AQ on a Qxx board, and I showed my Q. Her boyfriend reached over and flipped my 2nd card from the muck, claiming the "show one show all" rule.

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He's a complete idiot.

There are 3 rules.
1) "Show one show all" - "one" and "all" refer to people, not your cards. If any player at the table has seen any of your cards, you have to show them to every other player.

2) "Show both cards to win" - at showdown, if you are making a claim at the pot, you have to show both your cards. You cannot just show one card (for example, if there are 3 aces on the board, and you have the other ace in your hand for the nuts, you cannot just show 1 ace to take the pot. You have to show both cards. Even if the board has the nuts and you are splitting the pot.

3) "Show both cards if you show one" - if you show one card voluntarily to an opponent, you have to show both of them.

Rules 1) and 2) are pretty much universal and strictly enforced everywhere. Rule 3) is only in place at some places, not all.