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Old 11-12-2007, 12:28 PM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

Just moved to this site so no reads. What to do on this turn, is the pot too big too C/F? I have 51$ left, pot is 102$.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($163.48)
MP ($22.23)
CO ($113.87)
Button ($211.96)
Hero ($99)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $17</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $13, Button folds.

Flop: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $31</font>, CO calls $31.

Turn: ($102) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:34 PM
Sorcerer808 Sorcerer808 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

Wow this really is a crap turn. I'd c/f. 3:1 isnt good enough to put the rest of your stack in. He will even check it down with you sometimes

FWIW, I'd fake timing tells here. I'd check turn quickly and if he checks behind... I'll take a long time b4 checking river so he thinks I almost valuebetted something
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:36 PM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

bet more on the flop given your hand and the board.

he's not bluffing here...
c/f
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:38 PM
flyerr flyerr is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

I dont think you can put any more money in that pot. c/f the turn and if you're lucky he could even check behind.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:06 PM
AlanDyer AlanDyer is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

i'd lead again here
you're not ahead of much but if he flats you've got full house outs, and you can fold out alot of two pair hands [like your own]..
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:10 PM
Syntec87 Syntec87 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

/puke c/f
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

This is a mandatory bet IMO, given the stack sizes, and the fact that it will be hard for him to call you without a high flush card.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:22 PM
immesan immesan is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

So he flats the flop for fun in a 3b pot? obv he pushes with a set dont know the type of player but maybe he flats with AK none hearts hoping to win a big pot. ...C/F

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Old 11-12-2007, 02:37 PM
Stonewalled Stonewalled is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

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So he flats the flop for fun in a 3b pot? obv he pushes with a set dont know the type of player but maybe he flats with AK none hearts hoping to win a big pot. ...C/F

edit: spellcheck

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I didn't say that. Obviously he has a hand that he likes, and we're left in a tough spot. However, I don't put him necessarily on a draw, and the pot is twice our stack size. I think we're committed, and I'd rather take the initative and try to fold out a hand that beats us.
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:38 PM
TheJokerIsWild TheJokerIsWild is offline
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Default Re: 100nl crap turn, commited or not?

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i'd lead again here
you're not ahead of much but if he flats you've got full house outs, and you can fold out alot of two pair hands [like your own]..

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lol, lead out for what, $10? He has 51 left, he can't lead out and fold, DUCY?
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