$100NL - Why do we call here?

Landlord79 · #1 10-21-2007, 10:20 AM

This is something that had a long thread in the 6max forums, I don't know if the <100BB thing should apply to full ring. I took it for good advice, but now that I think it through, I'm a good enough player to lay this down pf. I mean, he's got AA 85%, AK, KK, or QQ 15%. This IMO should be an easy fold. Discuss

Edit: Villain is 16.5/5/2.3

Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG+1 ($145.50)
MP1 ($269.16)
MP2 ($75.52)
MP3 ($101.83)
CO ($97.50)
Landlord79 ($126.00)
SB ($24.50)
BB ($194.50)
UTG ($94.75)

Preflop: Landlord79 is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, CO bets $97.5 (All-In), Landlord79 bets $126 (All-In), 2 folds.

Flop: ($225) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($225) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($225) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $225

Results in white below: 
CO has Ad As (one pair, aces).
Landlord79 has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: CO wins $196.50. Landlord79 wins $28.50.

1p0kerboy · #2 10-21-2007, 12:03 PM

Because we don't think villian is open-pushing AA.

Landlord79 · #3 10-21-2007, 12:57 PM

What else would they open push?

Landlord79 · #4 10-21-2007, 01:03 PM

Also, things that are true in 6 max are not necessarily true for FR. If we are going to be our own thread, we need to think in terms of our own universe.

Mike Kelley · #5 10-21-2007, 01:05 PM

I wouldn't beat myself up about it too much LL. make a note on the guy and move on. Also, trust your gut, I might of (30% chance) folded this, but I wouldn't beat myself up for calling it.

ranka · #6 10-21-2007, 01:20 PM

Easy call. Big deal if there are aces. Its break even situation - you call his aces with your kings, they call your aces with their kings.

But its very profitable, if someone behind calls with queens or villain had queens. Or they fold their kings against your queens in similar situation.

Also villain may be drunk, may be tilted (got 3-4 beats another windows), may be misclick (don't know how).

too eazy · #7 10-21-2007, 01:34 PM

funny joke landlord

Chargers In 07 · #8 10-21-2007, 01:36 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Why do we call here?

[/ QUOTE ] We have KK. I mean that's the justification but is QQ open pushing? is AK open pushing? Makes no sense. I've open pushed KK/AA before when tilting but never QQ/AK. I don't fold here but I can see an argument for it.

Alpha 5.20 · #9 10-21-2007, 02:13 PM

Also at NL100 you can sometimes find players who open shove their entire stack with pure trash, you need a very good read on the player to lay this down (like someone who raises less than 1.5% pf as Tesorillo on stars). You cant assume the average player has AA 85% of the time here so I instant call and I'm pretty sure it's EV+.

CalledDownLight · #10 10-21-2007, 02:56 PM

This is actually a misclick sometimes. I've done it twice before and one time I had suited connectors and the other a small pair. Luckily no one looked me up.