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Old 10-10-2006, 02:57 PM
DaN_05 DaN_05 is offline
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Default $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

Villian is a fairly LAGGY donk. I can't possibly fold PF, can I? Push PF, even? Flop, stop and go and push it? Call his push with my overcards? Just fold? None seem really correct to me, help me out...

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 with t25 antes (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1105)
CO (t2075)
Button (t1425)
SB (t3045)
Hero (t5850)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t200

Flop: (t1025) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t680 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:00 PM
Nonchalant Nonchalant is offline
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

id fold it i dont think you have any FE and unless he is drunk i dont see him having worce than the computer hand

edit ment fold pf as played fold flop too I dont think you have any fe their eithor
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

I fold pre.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

Even with t625 in the pot and getting 3-1 on your call with QTo? I thought maybe calling and then pushing if I got a decent piece of the flop could be OK? Fold PF is standard then ya?
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

id call this some of the time with your stack and c/rai if i caught a piece, but only if i had the laggy read as you do. this is fine IMO.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:14 PM
Nonchalant Nonchalant is offline
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

I dont know much about standard but i dont like giving low stacks chips. Thing is if he is as bad as you say there are gonna be lots of times you can get him all in when you have a hand. Why give him more chips now when if he sucks out later it is ever MORE!
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

fold pf though i don't think the call is a terrible move. definately fold post flop though
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

I like the preflop call. If villain is as laggy as you say fold this flop and wait for an opportunity to take this exact same line then pop him on the flop.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

This is one of those rare situations where the large size of your stack, and the small size of the raiser makes this call okay. Even though you don't really have the implied odds, unless this jackass is min-raising with stuff like 65s. I don't mind making a slight -EV call here to (a) make sure that the rest of the table knows I'm not folding my BB to a min-raise from a small stack when I'm huge and (b) the chance to add more to my stack and become a monster force on the bubble.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: $6.50 - QTo in BB facing min-raise, huh?

Bigwig makes a good point about table image and how you are percieved.

I dont think calling is horrible, but a UTG min raise looks like is basically begging for action. Even if he does not have a premium hand, you are going to have to hit the flop hard. Because if your read is correct, he is not folding his PP, Ax, or even Kx to any flop.

Maybe I am w/t, but I would rather save t200 and pwn his blinds. I like the chip distribution/ set up of the table here.
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