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Old 11-29-2007, 12:59 PM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

Ansky is his line consistent so far with how you think he'd play like AT? What's his line with that type of hand if he chooses to CR the flop, check turn and bet river if turn is checked around? Or do you think he'd fire turn again. Sounds like you've seen his tpnk thin value line before, how did that go down.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

If I bet turn im never folding, its because I expect him to bluff raise my "float". I dont mind checking and calling a blank lead (raise flush ldo). Might make more money that way if a TJQ falls and hell lead or check call assuming a chop/win. Im not sure if you can get two streets of value against a weak ace here, and if you cant checking is obviously better than betting. That coupled with the fact that he very well may have a 3 leads me to check.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

this deep, i'd probably fold to a turn c/r
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

If we want 1 street of value aginst a weaker ace I think the place to do it is on the turn. Reps a float way better I think, which is all a weaker ace beats obv.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

i would 3bet flop if he has a wide value range. he is bloating the pot with marginal hands and exploiting by 3betting flop is very reasonable.

on turn i bet $2750 as played, and i think i might shove over a raise. really dont know if im folding this at any point.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

So we've come to a consensus of betting the turn for sure, I think that we should play it bet/fold. But if he calls and checks most rivers I'm firing again 90% of the time.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

Hard to describe why- but I would say if he check raised turn it's an easy fold the way he had been playing.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

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Hard to describe why- but I would say if he check raised turn it's an easy fold the way he had been playing.

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This is what I'm feeling. Of course I don't know too much about the match but I am a HU player exclusively and this seems like pretty spot-on with what I've come to think of this player based on what you have described.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: deeeeep 50-100, 2 part heads up hand.

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If we want 1 street of value aginst a weaker ace I think the place to do it is on the turn. Reps a float way better I think, which is all a weaker ace beats obv.

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When I float ill often check back turn because I do that with a weak ace and make a value looking bet on the river.
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