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Old 10-24-2007, 05:18 PM
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:19 PM
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So I did some poker stove analysis

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

39,600 games 0.016 secs 2,475,000 games/sec

Board: Ad 6d Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.909% 42.11% 00.80% 16677 315.00 { JdJs }
Hand 1: 57.091% 56.30% 00.80% 22293 315.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }


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44,550 games 0.005 secs 8,910,000 games/sec

Board: Ad 6d Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.938% 44.20% 00.74% 19690 330.00 { JdJs }
Hand 1: 55.062% 54.32% 00.74% 24200 330.00 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, JTs, AQo+ }


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68,310 games 0.406 secs 168,251 games/sec

Board: Ad 6d Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.359% 47.84% 00.52% 32677 357.00 { JdJs }
Hand 1: 51.641% 51.12% 00.52% 34919 357.00 { 99+, ATs+, KQs, JTs, ATo+ }


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With a tight range we have like 40% equity and with a lose range we have like 50% equity. Given this I guess check shoving is best?
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves

why dont u just shove the flop?
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves

oops i mean bet/call the flop, i thought he was a little shorter
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves

yeah dude i think im CRAI here
esp after seeing that pstove analysis
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: JJ blind battle meh flop he shoves

hmm, why is a c/r favored to bet/calling? I mean presumably we fold out a few hands better than ours by betting right?

I guess it would depend on how aggrssive the villain is and how loosely we assume he is calling the 4bet, so like if 88 is in his rang then c/r is better.

anybody care to explain?
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:00 PM
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yeah i like CR bc you get more value from air, based on his pf min raise / call combo i would guess that makes up a big part of his range here
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:05 PM
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Yeah at first i was thinking c/fold was the play to make, but this is a good analysis and you've convinced me crai is the best play too [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:15 PM
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yeah i like CR bc you get more value from air, based on his pf min raise / call combo i would guess that makes up a big part of his range here

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