5/10 QQ

[GrandMelon]

Main villain here is juiceifer who I have at 18/10/4 over about 150 hands. No real reads, seems like a decent tag from what Ive seen. Original raiser is some random donk. Ive been running like 18/15


Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $970
BTN: $64
SB: $1,187.50
BB: $460.65
UTG: $666.60
UTG+1: $290.75
UTG+2: $1,000
MP1: $302
MP2: $1,229.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $20</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $20, <font color="red">Hero raises to $100</font>, 4 folds, MP2 calls $80

Flop: ($235) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $150</font>, MP2 calls $150

Turn: ($535) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($535) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $979.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero

[guaranteedBluff]

i fold. doesn't seem like a spot for him to get frisky against you, since you squeezed an UTG raiser and Cbet flop...

seems like 88/99 or two diamonds trying to get paid off by your (fairly obvious) mediocre overpair.

edit: i doubt he turns TT/JJ into a bluff here; he'd most likely c/c river with those.

[TheProdigy]

I fold.


I understand he may fire a bluff on a scare card, but IMO the 8 helps your hand(I would assume in this position you would have an overpair, usually, or maybe something that totally missed, although you prob fire 2nd barrel when you have air [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ).

Anyways seems like a bad spot for him and you are playing complete bluffcatcher with QQ.

edit: Gbluff mentioned this in his edit so I will as well. Obv. this isn't 1010/JJ very often. He either has an 8 or a flush most likely, or the bluff with a busted straight draw or something. The problem is, your hand could also have been a flush draw with how you played it (AKs,AQs, maybe AJs,KQs you squeeze majorly light) so I don't think he would be bluffing at a flush card very often either.

[Renton]

i think i'd just b/c the turn

as played fold but his bet makes no theoretical sense as a value bet.

[TheProdigy]

It does if he put GM on a flush draw and he has 99, IMO.

[Renton]

yeah all those combinations

[Renton]

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (the i'm a sarcastic prick but its ok since i smilie-ed you smilie)

[skydancing8]

Anybody calling this if he bets about 350-400 on the river? I see no real change in thinking if he did lead for something around that.

Side note... theres a lot of random donks @ 5-10 I've noticed and a lot of min raising preflop as well. No point to this comment but an observation nontheless.

[Renton]

the minraising from decent players lately is probably fallout from PNL.

[Makonnen]

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the minraising from decent players lately is probably fallout from PNL.

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If that's the case here, then we're folding to an 8. The min raise has to anticipate, what, 2 callers? That would give him a PSR on the flop around 11, certainly not good for pairs, but OK for speculatives and bluffs.

In any case, I agree with the fold. I think this is a successful bluff often, but not often enough to warrant the call.